The Left's Version of Civility

[red states rule]

Is this liberals acting civil?


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[red states rule]

Yea, liberals really want to be civil folks


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[Indy]

Yea, liberals really want to be civil folks


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Ed, how are high energy prices, food prices and out of control inflation going to help the American worker. How does Obama closing down 85% of the gulf oil production help the American worker. How does the systematic closing down our own oil production help the American worker. He must be talking about the 2 year unemployment policy where it cost small business up wards of 400% increase in they unemployment contribution. So in Ed's mind the idea of requiring identification of the funds to support these programs is working against the American worker. I guess the 45% increase in non military discretionary spending by Pelosi and gang wasn't enough for ED. Note to ED, lower gas, energy, and food prices is what helps the American worker. Hey Ed, most American workers don't get free food cards, energy credits, subsidized housing, cell phones and Internet. American workers actually pay for it Ed. Ten years of hate and vitriol from you Ed, and this is the best you can come up with? By the way ED, conservatives are the American workers.

[logroller]

Fox, MSNBC, CNN etc are all motivated by selfish greed, not truth in reporting. Media, liberal and conservative, are just following the most profitable bias. I wonder how many people realize that Fox News was the plantiff in the landmark appeal in Florida which held it isn't technically illegal to intentionally distort the news. "We report, you decide" should be "We report what makes us the most money" Reports like these are simply a business decision. The great irony in this post is how each click adds to their marketability. So who's really to blame: the guy saying this crap, or we who pay to hear it?

[Kathianne]

Fox, MSNBC, CNN etc are all motivated by selfish greed, not truth in reporting. Media, liberal and conservative, are just following the most profitable bias. I wonder how many people realize that Fox News was the plantiff in the landmark appeal in Florida which held it isn't technically illegal to intentionally distort the news. "We report, you decide" should be "We report what makes us the most money" Reports like these are simply a business decision. The great irony in this post is how each click adds to their marketability. So who's really to blame: the guy saying this crap, or we who pay to hear it?

Case name & number? Sounds interesting.

[logroller]

Case name & number? Sounds interesting.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-distri...l/1310807.html

[red states rule]

The liberal media at its "best"

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[red states rule]

Is anyone shocked that liberal talk radio hosts have not "toned down the rhetoric" ?

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[fj1200]

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-distri...l/1310807.html

I'm not sure it says what you say it says. Could you be distorting? :hide: I could be misreading though...

It was an affiliate of Fox, not necessarily Fox News.

[logroller]

I'm not sure it says what you say it says. Could you be distorting? :hide: I could be misreading though...

It was an affiliate of Fox, not necessarily Fox News.

 We agree with WTVT that the FCC's policy against the intentional falsification of the news-which the FCC has called its “news distortion policy”-does not qualify as the required “law, rule, or regulation” under section 448.102.
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-distri...l/1310807.html

What did I distort? The courts found in favor of the appeal on the grounds that distorting news isn't a violation of Florida law; as such, no protections for a whistleblower exist. The only remand for distortion of news is in the consideration of renewal of FCC license, which, considering Monsanto/FoxNews influence($) at the federal level, would not gain much traction with the FCC if states don't recognize news distortion as "illegal".

Admittedly, there's always two sides to a story. The story may be issue of sour grapes, which the courts overturned. However, considering the majority interest in suppressing the story lies in Monsanto, it's not much of a stretch to infer that corporate pressure from Monsanto influenced FoxNews/NewsCorp, which in turn placed pressure on the affiliate to change the story or face, at best, a loss in advertising dollars and at worst a costly legal battle wih Monsanto. Again, its just business and if you're gonna mess with Monsanto-- you'd better be roundup ready.

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Even if half of what they say is true; it forces me to question the integrity of all major media, not just FoxNews, NewsCorp et al.

[fj1200]

What did I distort? The courts found in favor of the appeal on the grounds that distorting news isn't a violation of Florida law; as such, no protections for a whistleblower exist. The only remand for distortion of news is in the consideration of renewal of FCC license, which, considering Monsanto/FoxNews influence($) at the federal level, would not gain much traction with the FCC if states don't recognize news distortion as "illegal".

Small joke, sorry. I'm not sure how you can get whistleblower protection when you don't work for the offending firm. You listed Fox News as plaintiff when it was really a Fox affiliate, small difference. Much of the problem that I gleaned was the lack of a rule at the FCC which would then bring up the definition of "distortion." One man's distortion is another's truth/bias.

Admittedly, there's always two sides to a story. The story may be issue of sour grapes, which the courts overturned. However, considering the majority interest in suppressing the story lies in Monsanto, it's not much of a stretch to infer that corporate pressure from Monsanto influenced FoxNews/NewsCorp, which in turn placed pressure on the affiliate to change the story or face, at best, a loss in advertising dollars and at worst a costly legal battle wih Monsanto. Again, its just business and if you're gonna mess with Monsanto-- you'd better be roundup ready.

Which is all the more reason for better transparency at the Federal level.

[logroller]

Small joke, sorry. I'm not sure how you can get whistleblower protection when you don't work for the offending firm. You listed Fox News as plaintiff when it was really a Fox affiliate, small difference. Much of the problem that I gleaned was the lack of a rule at the FCC which would then bring up the definition of "distortion." One man's distortion is another's truth/bias.

Which is all the more reason for better transparency at the Federal level.

The rule exists with the FCC, but it was developed through adjudication(judicial), and not rulemaking(congress)- as such Florida law doesn't recognize it as a "rule". No one disputed what the affiliate did, it was judged by jury; the dispute was rather the affiliate actually broke a "rule"; under federal authority yes, in the state of Florida NO. Florida courts uphold the laws of Florida. So far as transparency, kinda hard to see through the billions corporations spend to protect their interests; even when clear information exists, its prone to be muddied. -- Watch the videos posted by Red; it's media mudslinging, not truth in reporting.

[fj1200]

The rule exists with the FCC, but it was developed through adjudication(judicial), and not rulemaking(congress)-

Not exactly.

The FCC has never published its news distortion policy as a regulation with definitive elements and defenses.   Instead, the FCC has developed the policy through the adjudicatory process in decisions resolving challenges to broadcasters' licenses.

But no sense quibbling.

as such Florida law doesn't recognize it as a "rule". No one disputed what the affiliate did, it was judged by jury; the dispute was rather the affiliate actually broke a "rule"; under federal authority yes, in the state of Florida NO. Florida courts uphold the laws of Florida. So far as transparency, kinda hard to see through the billions corporations spend to protect their interests; even when clear information exists, its prone to be muddied. --

What did they win on?

... After a four-week trial, a jury found against Wilson on all of his claims.   The trial court directed a verdict against Akre on her breach of contract claim, Akre abandoned her claim for declaratory relief, and the trial court let her whistle-blower claims go to the jury.   The jury rejected all of Akre's claims except her claim that WTVT retaliated against her in response to her threat to disclose the alleged news distortion to the FCC. The jury awarded Akre $425,000 in damages.

And no, the jury decision was flawed.

We reach this conclusion even though the whistle-blower aspect of Akre's case was without legal merit from its inception.

Watch the videos posted by Red; it's media mudslinging, not truth in reporting.

I generally don't. I know the difference between reporting and opinion.

[logroller]

Indeed, it was "without legal merit" because there isn't a law forbidding distortion of the news. So long as you don't outright lie AND someone can prove it, its OK to spin the story any which way but straight. I'm glad I don't have cable, the only exposure I get is through the internet; it's always truthful!

[fj1200]

Indeed, it was "without legal merit" because there isn't a law forbidding distortion of the news. So long as you don't outright lie AND someone can prove it, its OK to spin the story any which way but straight. I'm glad I don't have cable, the only exposure I get is through the internet; it's always truthful!

Nor should there be.

No cable here either.