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    Default Al Gore claims global warming caused this week's historic blizzard

    Al Gore has popped his head out of his igloo to once again show what a babbling fool he haqs become

    Yes, if you have been digging out from the recent snowstorm, you can blame global warming


    By: Lynn R. Mitchell 02/03/11 6:05 PM

    Listening to Al Gore explain that the current round of turbulent winter weather is really an off-shoot of global warming brings a grin to the faces of many while others just shake their heads in disbelief.

    Consisting of ice, record snow fall, bitter temperatures, and blizzard conditions of historic proportions, one-third of America was affected this week in a 2,000-mile swath of Old Man Winter's fury as frigid and deadly conditions stretched south into Mexico and north to Maine. How could global warming be real with all this winter weather?

    Fox News reported that Gore had an explanation:

    "As it turns out, the scientific community has been addressing this particular question for some time now, and they say increased heavy snowfalls are completely consistent with what they have been predicting as a consequence of man-made global warming," Gore write in a blog post. The Nobel Prize-winning former vice president was responding to a question posed by Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly, who wondered on air why global warming was such an urgent science policy priority when the New York City area had become a “tundra” this winter.

    Now comes word that a Greenpeace member fears Gore may have done untold damage to the environmental movement. Fred Pearce at Short Sharp Science attended a three-day conference in Portugal last week consisting of 28 bloggers, climate scientists, and what he called "professional contrarians" who gnawed over the looming issue of climate. He revealed:

    The meeting was the brainchild of University of Oxford science philosopher Jerry Ravetz, an 81-year-old Greenpeace member who fears Al Gore may have done as much damage to environmentalism as Joseph Stalin did to socialism.

    Interestingly enough, no meeting of the minds was made at the conference as it was decided that the make-up of those attending was "too lopsided in favour of the sceptical camp."

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...#ixzz1D0m8GlHn



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    global warming is the reason some men cant get laid and why some women cant get pregnant.

    I dont know gore blames global warming on everything


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    The lone conservative on the panel makes the best point

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    Unfortunately people see what they want to see. Having worked in the sciences most of my life I prefer physics over ideology. Where some take that it is cold and snowy therefore global warming can not be, I prefer to reason cause and effect minus natural trends. It is a shame that something so important to us all has become nothing but a political game for those that it is convient to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundaydriver View Post
    Unfortunately people see what they want to see. Having worked in the sciences most of my life I prefer physics over ideology. Where some take that it is cold and snowy therefore global warming can not be, I prefer to reason cause and effect minus natural trends. It is a shame that something so important to us all has become nothing but a political game for those that choose so.
    What about natural cycles?
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    Originally Posted by sundaydriver
    Unfortunately people see what they want to see. Having worked in the sciences most of my life I prefer physics over ideology. Where some take that it is cold and snowy therefore global warming can not be, I prefer to reason cause and effect minus natural trends. It is a shame that something so important to us all has become nothing but a political game for those that choose so.



    Quote Originally Posted by texastom View Post
    What about natural cycles?
    Our weather is also affected by the temperature of the Earths core which does go thru cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundaydriver View Post
    Originally Posted by sundaydriver
    Unfortunately people see what they want to see. Having worked in the sciences most of my life I prefer physics over ideology. Where some take that it is cold and snowy therefore global warming can not be, I prefer to reason cause and effect minus natural trends. It is a shame that something so important to us all has become nothing but a political game for those that choose so.

    Our weather is also affected by the temperature of the Earths core which does go thru cycles.
    Well, it could be people take that view because it has been shoved down our throats that because we had a few years of warmer temperatures, it was PROOF we had global warming.

    So now that the last couple of years have not only been cooler, but MUCH cooler, people automatically expect that the opposite must be true. Those that chant the global warming (now climate change, since that fits their agenda better) mantra are not getting an earful of their own.

    Too many take a very small snapshot of time and try to act as with that limited data they can prove whatever the current "cause du jour".
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    There are natural trends of global cooling and warming, the causes of which endure much speculation, as global climate systems are difficult, if not impossible, to test in a scientific manner. However, comparitive analysis of societies' responses to these natural cycles, specifically those of resource depletion and sustainable technologies, plays a decisive role in a society's endurance. The issue isn't rather climate change is happening, because it has before and will again, but rather such changes will cause our society to thrive or suffer. Thus far, our practices have caused us to thrive, but so did the Vikings and Mayans. We can remain ignorant to the challenges of our society, pursuing growth over sustainability, but I prefer to have a society which is remembered more for it's caution and survival than it's expansion and collapse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    There are natural trends of global cooling and warming, the causes of which endure much speculation, as global climate systems are difficult, if not impossible, to test in a scientific manner. However, comparitive analysis of societies' responses to these natural cycles, specifically those of resource depletion and sustainable technologies, plays a decisive role in a society's endurance. The issue isn't rather climate change is happening, because it has before and will again, but rather such changes will cause our society to thrive or suffer. Thus far, our practices have caused us to thrive, but so did the Vikings and Mayans. We can remain ignorant to the challenges of our society, pursuing growth over sustainability, but I prefer to have a society which is remembered more for it's caution and survival than it's expansion and collapse.
    Why do you think it is now called "climate change"?

    When I was in HS the SS teacher "taught" us about global cooking and the coming Ice Age

    Then it was global warming and how man was heating up the planet

    Those did not work so they came up with climate change so ANYTHING weather related can be held up as example for the enviro wackos to demand more taxpayer money for their agenda


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    Ummm, Red, in highschool science class do ya remember when the teacher dropped a chunk of dry ice into a beaker of water? the warmer gas pushed the colder CO2 fog up and over the rim of the beaker. This weather is the same principle on a global scale. Warmer water and currents in the northern oceans create warmer air at the surface, which creates a column of rising warm air which displaces the colder air...displaces it south. It's a simple scientific principle, Red. And even though I'm well aware you and your fellow travelers operate in a fact-free environment, I'll provide a link to solid, scientific fact.

    <center><a href=http://climateprogress.org/2010/06/03/nasa-giss-james-hansen-study-global-warming-record-hottest-year/>NASA: The 12-month running mean global temperature has reached a new record in 2010 — despite recent minimum of solar irradiance</a></center>
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    I will let Dems do the talking now

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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Why do you think it is now called "climate change"?

    When I was in HS the SS teacher "taught" us about global cooking and the coming Ice Age

    Then it was global warming and how man was heating up the planet

    Those did not work so they came up with climate change so ANYTHING weather related can be held up as example for the enviro wackos to demand more taxpayer money for their agenda
    I think they call it climate change because it is the most accurate term for describing the dynamics of earth's systems, including weather patterns, ocean levels and currents, (de)glaciation etc. Global Warming is less descriptive, as warming indicates a trend which will continue and, in light of historical climate anaylsis, it is unknown to what extent the current trend will take. What we are sure of is that these trends can have a widespread effects upon plant and animal ecologies as well as human civilizations.

    We can debate the current need for climate research if you wish, but understand the scope and magnitude of climate change doesn't revolve around our civilization. In the short-run, we need to survive; in the long run, we're dead -- classic dichotomy.

    You must understand its not about what we want or prefer in terms of happiness or public good; its about the success of our civilization over others, and we're already in the minority by population. What can we do to extend the short-run 20 years? 50 years? 200 years? More importantly, when does the short-run begin, or has it already???
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    I think they call it climate change because it is the most accurate term for describing the dynamics of earth's systems, including weather patterns, ocean levels and currents, (de)glaciation etc. Global Warming is less descriptive, as warming indicates a trend which will continue and, in light of historical climate anaylsis, it is unknown to what extent the current trend will take. What we are sure of is that these trends can have a widespread effects upon plant and animal ecologies as well as human civilizations.

    We can debate the current need for climate research if you wish, but understand the scope and magnitude of climate change doesn't revolve around our civilization. In the short-run, we need to survive; in the long run, we're dead -- classic dichotomy.

    You must understand its not about what we want or prefer in terms of happiness or public good; its about the success of our civilization over others, and we're already in the minority by population. What can we do to extend the short-run 20 years? 50 years? 200 years? More importantly, when does the short-run begin, or has it already???
    It is all about MONEY. Like everything else with the left, they must make everything a "crisis" and only money will solve the crisis

    Damn, I showed with their own words when it did NOT snow in DC it was global warming - and when it DID snow it was global warming

    Even when the so called experts fake their data used to promote global warming it means nothing to them. They continue to promote the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the people


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    It is all about MONEY. Like everything else with the left, they must make everything a "crisis" and only money will solve the crisis
    How is money gonna affect our abiliity to adapt to climate changes? I guess I could burn it to heat my house- better stock up on ones. What makes the world go round are resources. Millions of years worth of stored energy stored in fossil fuels is a precious resource to us. So important that we cant function without it, this is our achilles' heel, and if we fail to reduce our overconsumption to a more sustainable level, we will expedite our demise as a society.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Damn, I showed with their own words when it did NOT snow in DC it was global warming - and when it DID snow it was global warming
    Believe it, don't believe it: I doubt anything I will say will compel you to participate in saving anything outside your pocketbook. But bear in mind, the extinct societies of yesteryear flourished too, and now they're gone. Take a guess why? It wasn't snow, or no snow, or lack of trade or overzealous governments. It is always the unsustainable use of resources.

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Even when the so called experts fake their data used to promote global warming it means nothing to them. They continue to promote the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the people

    Global warming is not even close to being as big a "scam" as fiat currency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    How is money gonna affect our abiliity to adapt to climate changes? I guess I could burn it to heat my house- better stock up on ones. What makes the world go round are resources. Millions of years worth of stored energy stored in fossil fuels is a precious resource to us. So important that we cant function without it, this is our achilles' heel, and if we fail to reduce our overconsumption to a more sustainable level, we will expedite our demise as a society.



    Believe it, don't believe it: I doubt anything I will say will compel you to participate in saving anything outside your pocketbook. But bear in mind, the extinct societies of yesteryear flourished too, and now they're gone. Take a guess why? It wasn't snow, or no snow, or lack of trade or overzealous governments. It is always the unsustainable use of resources.




    Global warming is not even close to being as big a "scam" as fiat currency.
    Dems want to regulate Co2 to stop global wamring :R. This will cause the cost of EVERYTHING to skyrocket

    Don't take my word for it - here is Obama himself


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    Cap and Trade will further sink our economy as had other Obama policies

    and global warming is a scam




    Weather Channel boss calls global warming 'the greatest scam in history'
    By Our Foreign Staff 11:14AM GMT 09 Nov 2007
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    The founder of the The Weather Channel in the US has described the concept of global warming as 'the greatest scam in history' and accused global media of colluding with 'environmental extremists' to alarm the public.

    The deceit behind global warming
    Climate change is like 'World War Three'
    "It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM," John Coleman wrote in an article published on ICECAP, the International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project, which is known for challenging widely published theories on global warming.

    The maverick weather forecaster is known for his regular critique of widely accepted global warming theories. The Weather Channel broadcasts weather forecasts and weather-related news in the US 24 hours a day.

    His views challenge the consensus of the international science community that it is at least 90 per cent certain that temperatures will continue to rise, with average global surface temperature projected to increase by between 1.4 and 5.8ºC above 1990 levels by 2100.

    This increase will be accompanied by rising sea levels, more intense precipitation events in some countries, increased risk of drought in others, and adverse effects on agriculture, health and water resources.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ear...n-history.html





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