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    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...out-funds.html
    Banks Boosts CEO Pay by 34% as Bailout Loans Go Unpaid
    Published on 02-24-2011
    Source: Bloomberg

    SunTrust Banks Inc., the Georgia lender that has yet to repay $4.85 billion in taxpayer bailout funds, reported a 34 percent increase in Chief Executive Officer James Wells’s 2010 compensation.

    Wells’s total $10.3 million included $4.5 million in pay to be collected later, primarily boosted by the changing value of his pension benefits, the bank said today in a regulatory filing. He received $4.6 million in stock, more than three times as much as the previous year, it said. His salary was unchanged at $1.1 million, and he didn’t get a cash bonus or stock options. The bank reported a $3.3 million option award for 2009.

    SunTrust, led by Wells since January of 2007, returned to quarterly profits last year for the first time since 2008 as it set aside less money to cover bad loans. The company may sell stock to repay funds received under the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, Wells, 64, told analysts last month.

    He declined more than 552,900 stock options that were awarded for 2009, according to the filing. Had he accepted the grant, his total compensation for 2010 would have fallen 37 percent from the year earlier, the Atlanta-based company said.
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    http://dailybail.com/home/bombshell-...xpayers-t.html
    ...Goldman Sachs Got Billions From Taxpayers Thru AIG For Its OWN Account, Crisis Panel Finds; Contradicting SWORN Testimony From Execs
    Published on 02-24-2011 Email To Friend Print Version
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    Source: Huffington Post

    Goldman Sachs collected $2.9 billion from the American International Group as payout on a speculative trade it placed for the benefit of its own account, receiving the bulk of those funds after AIG received an enormous taxpayer rescue, according to the final report of an investigative panel appointed by Congress.

    The fact that a significant slice of the proceeds secured by Goldman through the AIG bailout landed in its own account--as opposed to those of its clients or business partners-- has not been previously disclosed. These details about the workings of the controversial AIG bailout, which eventually swelled to $182 billion, are among the more eye-catching revelations in the report to be released Thursday by the bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission.

    The details underscore the degree to which Goldman--the most profitable securities firm in Wall Street history--benefited directly from the massive emergency bailout of the nation's financial system, a deal crafted on the watch of then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who had previously headed the bank.

    "If these allegations are correct, it appears to have been a direct transfer of wealth from the Treasury to Goldman's shareholders," said Joshua Rosner, a bond analyst and managing director at independent research consultancy Graham Fisher & Co., after he was read the relevant section of the report. "The AIG counterparty bailout, which was spun as necessary to protect the public, seems to have protected the institution at the expense of the public."

    Goldman and AIG both declined to comment.

    When news first broke in 2009 that Goldman had been an indirect beneficiary of the AIG bailout, collecting the full value of some $14 billion in outstanding insurance polices it held with the firm, the officials who brokered the deal justified these terms as a necessary stabilizer for the broader financial system. As the world's largest insurance company, AIG's inability to cover its outstanding obligations could have threatened the solvency of the institutions holding its policies, asserted the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which oversaw the deal.

    Goldman fended off claims that the arrangement amounted to a backdoor bailout by asserting that none of the money from the AIG rescue landed in its own coffers. Rather, those funds went to compensate clients or institutions on the other side of its trades, Goldman said....


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    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/2...global-growth/
    IMF says weaker dollar would help global growth

    Source: AFP

    The International Monetary Fund called for a weaker dollar to help the United States reduce its deficits with the rest of the world and rebalance the global economy, in a report released Wednesday.

    In the report prepared for a Group of 20 finance chiefs meeting last week, the IMF said that its calculations showed the dollar remains "on the strong side" of medium-term fundamentals, while the euro and the Japanese yen were "broadly in line" and several Asian currencies, including China, were undervalued.

    To address global imbalances, the G20 should allow the dollar to fall, the Washington-based institution said.

    "Some further real effective depreciation of the US dollar would help ensure a sustained decline of the US current account deficit towards a level more consistent with medium-term fundamentals, helping to support more balanced growth," the IMF said.

    The widening US current account deficit -- a broad measure of trade in goods, services, income and payment -- rose a fifth straight quarter in the third quarter last year, to $127.2 billion, according to the latest US official data.

    The issue of a weak dollar is particularly sensitive in Brazil, where the government has said an international "currency war" is under way with the United States pumping cheap dollars into its post-crisis economy, while China's yuan sinks in tandem.
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    How do these show corruption?

    The BOD apparently feel he's worth it.

    I think this is more an example of stupid regulators.

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Dollar devaluation would lead to inflation reducing the value of a banks assets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    How do these show corruption?



    The BOD apparently feel he's worth it.



    I think this is more an example of stupid regulators.



    Dollar devaluation would lead to inflation reducing the value of a banks assets.
    It's high time you just admit you're a corporatist and don't care about conservatism at all.

    Go ahead. There's no shame in being a corporatist.
    All conservatives are such from personal defects. They have been effeminated by position or nature, born halt and blind, through luxury of their parents, and can only, like invalids, act on the defensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    How do these show corruption?



    The BOD apparently feel he's worth it.



    I think this is more an example of stupid regulators.



    Dollar devaluation would lead to inflation reducing the value of a banks assets.
    If you don't see it, I don't no if i can splian it.


    Here's a link that sums up the IMF's position ( it's a bit left leaning assessment but many valid points)
    http://www.globalexchange.org/campai...TopTenIMF.html
    Last edited by revelarts; 02-27-2011 at 09:34 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin Rider View Post
    It's high time you just admit you're a corporatist and don't care about conservatism at all.

    Go ahead. There's no shame in being a corporatist.
    Therein lies the problem, PR. These idiots don't understand that their corporatism and claimed conservatism cannot exist in any kind of harmonious civil mindset. Dwight D. Eisenhower was the last true conservative that we had. Richard Millhouse Nixon was a very close second but we have not had anything close to a genuine conservative even close to the Whitehouse since Nixon. If true conservatism is the issue for today's self styled right bent politicos I suggest they research the policies, practises and beliefs of the aforementioned conservatives.

    IOW, what we have now is a bunch of bought and paid for corporate mules that have no idea as to the extent to which their ignorance and fearfulness has been exploited for the profits of the corporations that yank their chains now at will. This is a well known phenomenon but the rightwingers will never admit having been so thoroughly hoodwinked and led to believe that 98% of the population of the Progressive United States of America are worthless, not to be taken seriously and cheated out of everything these hardworking Americans have spent their lives earning and paying for. They spew every day and night on FauxNews and other places things like revolution, targets and crosshairs, violence and false accusations. Well, we may have a revolution and I would not want to be a rightwinger when that happens. The common people know when they're getting screwed and the rightwingers have just about brought them to their knees. It will only take actual truth and freedom and liberty to mobilize that pent up anger and disappointment into taking matters into more deserving hands.

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    How all leftwingers get from Relevarts, a Paulist, to all rightwingers is a question for the ages.


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    How all leftwingers get from Relevarts, a Paulist, to all rightwingers is a question for the ages.
    All "Paulists" claim to be conservative libertarians. But listening to what they say they are more akin to Ayn Rand and her ridiculous opinions of how society and wealth should be exploited one against the other. The Virtue of Selfishness my ass. Ron and Rand hold elected offices as Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Therein lies the problem, PR. These idiots don't understand that their corporatism and claimed conservatism cannot exist in any kind of harmonious civil mindset. ...what we have now is a bunch of bought and paid for corporate mules that have no idea as to the extent to which their ignorance and fearfulness has been exploited for the profits of the corporations that yank their chains now at will.
    That's a result of my update on Lincoln's philosophy.

    You can fool some of the people all of the time; you can fool all of the people some of the time; but if you have a few hundred billion dollars and no deadline, you can sell most of the people on damn near anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin Rider View Post
    That's a result of my update on Lincoln's philosophy.

    You can fool some of the people all of the time; you can fool all of the people some of the time; but if you have a few hundred billion dollars and no deadline, you can sell most of the people on damn near anything.
    'Zackly, PR, zackly.

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    A "Paulist"?
    Paul's the best I see these days.

    The right is about as conservative as the left is progressive.
    the early progressives in the 1930's were trying to turn the middle class back toward morality with gov't programs and fought monopolies instead of getting funding from them.

    democrats are just as bought off by corps as republicans, they just camouflage it better and throw a few corporate bodies to the crowd now an then. Never the big fish or a significant change to the system.

    Look at the health care bill, it's a boon to the Ins companies and big pharma all their stock went UP. 1000's of New customers impressed by law, what a deal.

    who's fooled there?
    Just throw a bone to the poor (kill them in the back room when they're to old though) but get the big payday from the middle class and rich. HMO's were another trick but from the right side.
    Both systems end up as heads they win tails we lose.

    As far as Paul being an Ayn Rand fan, sure he is.
    I think there's merit in some Rand's thought, but it's base is atheistic and a bit narcissistic, for lack of a better term. Which I think are basic flaws. Though many of her observations are spot on. Paul's economics grows out of Mieses work. Similar to Rand but a bit less cold from what I've seen so far but ultimately the same outcomes in many cases.
    However I'm not a convinced FULL ON free market person. I think the corps are too corrupt and some kind of Gov't has to be a check for their power. I have no good solution on how to do that effectively but I'm convinced that a COMPLETELY "FREE" market would lead to a kind of corporate mercantilism, or feudalism.
    the Mieses and the Rand people seem to think that a free market always self corrects with innovation and/or competition but I only hear faith in a force rather than any real mechanism that makes that happen when they say that. When the rich have bought and only lease all of the land or water , air, fuel and education how can you get viable competition? Vonage was almost bought out by the big telecoms/coms then almost sued out of biz by them, the courts blocked it . And they still aren't serious player in the phone biz.

    But the Bible has a novel solution to the general ownership problem.
    In ancient Israel every family was given a land hold. They could use it as they pleased, buy n sell crops, raise livestock on it for barter or sale etc OR sell the land outright.
    However every 50 years the land ownership would revert back to the original families. Breaking any land and water rights monopolies that may have occurred. No one group would every own all or most of the land or hold any mortgages over it for more than a generation.
    Ah... also there was no interest to be charged on money loaned to fellow citizens... ever.

    2 very good tools to to use as a template IMO.
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    Concerning the poor and sick,
    people were suppose to allow the poor to come through the fields an take only what they could carry with their hands.
    And give alms for support for the sick and poor that came across their paths, even foreigners
    But primarily the Families were obligated to take care of their poor relations. Not the state and definitely not by state coercion.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
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    Concerning the poor and sick,
    people were suppose to allow the poor to come through the fields an take only what they could carry with their hands.
    And give alms for support for the sick and poor that came across their paths, even foreigners
    But primarily the Families were obligated to take care of their poor relations. Not the state and definitely not by state coercion.
    In north Mississippi if you have car trouble on Sunday and there is a church on one side of the road and a beer joint on the other which would you expect to get some help from?

    Our government provides as best as it can despite the cries and clinging of the righwingers. American churches have never in our history been known to adequately look after the poor and infirm. I don't understand how a rightwinger can also claim to be a Christian but there are all kinds of hypocrisies and ironies in that rather nutty community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin Rider View Post
    It's high time you just admit you're a corporatist and don't care about conservatism at all.

    Go ahead. There's no shame in being a corporatist.
    Clearly the time away that you and Psycho had has added nothing to either of your abilities to exhibit thought and make rationale connections.

    The opposite of government is not corporate, it's people, individuals; I wouldn't expect either of you to recognize that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Therein lies the problem, PR. These idiots don't understand that their corporatism and claimed conservatism cannot exist in any kind of harmonious civil mindset. Dwight D. Eisenhower was the last true conservative that we had. Richard Millhouse Nixon was a very close second but we have not had anything close to a genuine conservative even close to the Whitehouse since Nixon. If true conservatism is the issue for today's self styled right bent politicos I suggest they research the policies, practises and beliefs of the aforementioned conservatives.
    First you're going to have to explain how Nixon was a conservative. Hard money guy? No, closed the gold window; although the real fault is at the Fed and LBJ. Tax cutter? No, marginal rates remained high after LBJ rolled back the JFK cuts. Limited the power of the central government? No, instituted Affirmative Action.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    IOW, what we have now is a bunch of bought and paid for corporate mules that have no idea as to the extent to which their ignorance and fearfulness has been exploited for the profits of the corporations that yank their chains now at will. This is a well known phenomenon but the rightwingers will never admit having been so thoroughly hoodwinked and led to believe that 98% of the population of the Progressive United States of America are worthless, not to be taken seriously and cheated out of everything these hardworking Americans have spent their lives earning and paying for. They spew every day and night on FauxNews and other places things like revolution, targets and crosshairs, violence and false accusations. Well, we may have a revolution and I would not want to be a rightwinger when that happens. The common people know when they're getting screwed and the rightwingers have just about brought them to their knees. It will only take actual truth and freedom and liberty to mobilize that pent up anger and disappointment into taking matters into more deserving hands.
    Do we have true conservatism? No, there's clearly to much corporate power over the regulatory environment and you know Democrats are right up there at the corporate trough so your blither is just that. The Dem version of sucking at the "corporatist" teat of unions is just as bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    In north Mississippi if you have car trouble on Sunday and there is a church on one side of the road and a beer joint on the other which would you expect to get some help from?

    Our government provides as best as it can despite the cries and clinging of the righwingers. American churches have never in our history been known to adequately look after the poor and infirm. I don't understand how a rightwinger can also claim to be a Christian but there are all kinds of hypocrisies and ironies in that rather nutty community.

    Psychoblues
    And there are no "hypocrisies and ironies in that rather nutty community" of the left pyscho? Do you need pictures?

    The Gov't has never in our history been known to adequately look after the poor and infirm either.
    And I don't understand how you pin all of your hopes of "true" Christian charity on wrangling a secular/atheist state to press the rich & middle class into "giving" to the poor under threat of jail and fine.

    Psych you say you are a christian, I don't understand why you don't see that there is no group that's doesn't have it's fair share of nuts and bald faced sinners. Seems the best we can all do is follow God and his word to the best of our understanding while giving some respect to all of other fellow travelers and help each other along the way.

    As far as car trouble is concerned, I guess it depends, I don't know about the people in the churches in Mississippi but there are a few mechanics in Churches here in VA and they'll be sober at 10 in the morning. I've had one work on my car after church when i came out and it wouldn't start. But what if you need a doctor too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    If you don't see it, I don't no if i can splian it.
    True as we've talked about this before.

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Here's a link that sums up the IMF's position ( it's a bit left leaning assessment but many valid points)
    http://www.globalexchange.org/campai...TopTenIMF.html
    Thanks but I'm no fan of the IMF.

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