Why Can't the Pro-Abortionists be Honest?

[LuvRPgrl]

And yet, "a human life" and "human life", neither refer to "a small group of skin cells".

[J.T]

You're the liar claiming human cells aren't human life, you should practice what you preach.

You seem confused again. I'm the one who doesn't think it matters whether you're a living human being or not. Go back to my earliest posts in the thread. Being a living human organism is neither necessary nor sufficient for personhood. Would a living Neanderthal or a Negro not be a person because they are not the same species? What about an intelligent race of an entirely different genus? What about a conscious and intelligent machine? Or a hypothetical race of intelligent being from another planet, sharing none of our evolutionary history?

How similar do the genetics have to be? Nuclear family? Same race? Same species? Same genus? Same family? Same order? Same class? Same phylum? Just the same kingdom?

Or is is a matter of geographical proximity? Of legal status (the bulk of your argument, which is that the law should rest on age because the law rests on age)? Just what is a 'person' with 'personal rights' that make it unacceptable to torture and murder it? Is it a material thing? Is it marked by genetics, location, or something else?

Again, coward: what changes between the last night of the first trimester and the morning of the first day of the second trimester that suddenly makes it no longer okay to kill you in cold blood for my own convenience?

[Missileman]

You seem confused again.

Really? So you've changed your position that a human cell isn't human life? If not, the confusion is still yours.

[J.T]

Really? So you've changed your position that a human cell isn't human life? If not, the confusion is still yours.

You can deny what a human life is all you want. It makes no difference to me. Human life means nothing to me, so your little skit is pointless.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...282#post476282


http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...311#post476311

[Missileman]

You can deny what a human life is all you want. It makes no difference to me. Human life means nothing to me, so your little skit is pointless.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...282#post476282


http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...311#post476311

And you maintain that the single cell resulting from conception is a human organism?

[LuvRPgrl]

There is a difference between "human life" and "A human life". It's plain English, I shouldn't have to explain it to you. Though considering you can't even spell myopic, perhaps I do.

If Im misspelling myopic, its cuz I havent had to use it in years....then there was U

[Kathianne]

LPRG, just got to say, that while I like you, you do remind me alot of Glockmail. Just won't concede any point, regardless of significance. Just deluge the opposition in number of posts and claim 'victory.' Kind of like an islamicist.

[LuvRPgrl]

LPRG, just got to say, that while I like you, you do remind me alot of Glockmail. Just won't concede any point, regardless of significance. Just deluge the opposition in number of posts and claim 'victory.' Kind of like an islamicist.

You do realize that MM has almost twice as many posts in this thread than I do? Maybe you just remember mine more because they are more substative and stay on point more often

[Kathianne]

You do realize that MM has almost twice as many posts in this thread than I do? Maybe you just remember mine more because they are more substative and stay on point more often

Of course, that must be it.

[logroller]

You do realize that MM has almost twice as many posts in this thread than I do? Maybe you just remember mine more because they are more substative and stay on point more often

Of course, that must be it.

Agree or disagree, that's funny!

[gabosaurus]

It's a shame that extreme right wing folks value the life of an unborn child over that of the female bearing it.
But only until the child is delivered. Then it is refuse.

[LuvRPgrl]

It's a shame that extreme right wing folks value the life of an unborn child over that of the female bearing it.
But only until the child is delivered. Then it is refuse.

I know the left loves lies, and hypcrasy, but I thought you guys didn't believe in stereotyping?

[SassyLady]

Again, coward: what changes between the last night of the first trimester and the morning of the first day of the second trimester that suddenly makes it no longer okay to kill you in cold blood for my own convenience?

Interesting point.

[SassyLady]

It's a shame that extreme right wing folks value the life of an unborn child over that of the female bearing it.
But only until the child is delivered. Then it is refuse.

Really, Gabby? Really? Do you not feel shame knowing that most of the abortions performed are simply for birth control and have nothing to do with saving the life of the mother?

And what makes you think the child is less valuable once it has been delivered? Isn't it the mother of the child that makes the choice to treat it as refuse? How do you come to the conclusion that the "extreme right wing folks" consider a child as "refuse"?

Sometimes you just don't make sense with your assertions.

[J.T]

And you maintain that the single cell resulting from conception is a human organism?

http://www.amazon.com/Developing-Hum...der_1416037063

Human development is a continuous process that begins when an oocyte (ovum) from a female is fertilized by a sperm 9spermatazoon) from a male.

Zygote. This cell results from the union of an oocyte and a sperm during fertilization. A zygote or embryo is the beginning of as new human being.

(p. 7)

Why can't you people ever be honest?