Hatred for the poor

[glockmail]

This is an inspiring autobiography of a Russian-Jewish son of an immigrant who grew up in the ghettos, served as a bombadier in WWII, became an influential activist in the civil rights and Vietnam War era, became a world renowned professor and changed the face of American history with his first book A People's History of the United States. .....

Uugghhh! I read about 1/2 of that book before I had to put it down. He comes up with conclusions with absolutely no basis. It's obvious that Zinn hates humanity.

[gabosaurus]

I know exactly how ConReps feel about poor and underprivileged people. So let's all have a sing-a-long with the Dead Kennedys!

Efficiency and progress is ours once more
Now that we have the Neutron bomb
It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done
Away with excess enemy
But no less value to property
No sense in war but perfect sense at home:

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor
Tonight

Behold the sparkle of champagne
The crime rate's gone
Feel free again
O' life's a dream with you, Miss Lily White
Jane Fonda on the screen today
Convinced the liberals it's okay
So let's get dressed and dance away the night

While they:
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor
Tonight

[stephanie]

I know exactly how ConReps feel about poor and underprivileged people. So let's all have a sing-a-long with the Dead Kennedys!

[Abbey Marie]

Gabby, your lyrics reminded me of Spongebob's song:

(Spongebob) It's not about winning, it's about fun
(Plankton) What's that?
(Spongebob) Fun is when you...fun is...it' like...it's kinda...sorta like a...
What is fun?? I...Let me spell it for you

(Spongebob)
F is for friends who do stuff together
U is for u and me
N is for N-e where and N-e time at all

(Sea Creatures) down here in the deep blue sea

(Plankton)
F is for fire that burns down the whole town
U is for Uranium...BOMBS!
N is for no survivors when you're-

(Spongebob) Plankton! Those things aren't what fun is all about!
now do it like this,
F is for friends who do stuff to-

(Plankton) Never! that's completely idiotic!

(Spongebob) Here, Let me help you...
F is for friends who do stuff together
U is for u and me, Try it!

(Plankton) N is for N-e where and N-e time at all

(Sea Creatures) Down here in the deep blue sea

[avatar4321]

*shrug* You need to work as many jobs as necessary to support the lifestyle you think you're entitled to.

Hell.. My parents didn't even buy me a car when I was 16. If I wanted a car, I had to buy it.

my parents couldnt have afforded to buy me a car if they wanted to. im lucky i can afford one myself.

[shattered]

my parents couldnt have afforded to buy me a car if they wanted to. im lucky i can afford one myself.

Well, then you should be screaming louder than I should be. After all, your parents have a moral responsibility to insist that someone else give you something they should be giving you even if they can't afford it...or something.

(trying to figure that out made my head hurt)

[avatar4321]

Rule #1 for Self-Righteous Conservatives - When a liberal makes an excellent point attack their integrity.

For the people who abstain from sex, great for them. I hope they're happy in their frustrated, virginal existence. For everybody else abstinence-only sure doesn't do them a lot of good.

I've got a question for you along the same line of thinking you've presented to me: If abstinence-only works so well and is THE answer, why are there still unwanted pregnancies?

Because there are selfish pricks who dont want to take responsibility for their children.

[diuretic]

95% of them ARE poor by choice. Very few people are actually destitute due to uncontrollable circumstances.

Seriously how is that? People choose to be poor. It's an interesting point of view, I disagree with it but it's interesting. Why do you hold that position?

[diuretic]

Keeping your pants zipped/legs closed until you can afford children has an uncanny way of helping you stay out of poverty. As does working at your schoolwork and having a good work ethic in general. Generations of immigrants have done it. It's not rocket science.

Or use contraception, that's a good idea to prevent unwanted pregnancy and also sexually transmitted diseases. But yes, a woman having a child while she's still at school is going to limit her choices later on.

Yes, working hard at school is good too. I wonder why people don't do it?

[shattered]

Seriously how is that? People choose to be poor. It's an interesting point of view, I disagree with it but it's interesting. Why do you hold that position?

Well, a good start would be those with 5-6 children who are on welfare..rather than spending their days looking for a job and/or going to school to get out of that predicament, they live in the slum areas of the city, and spend their days, and welfare checks down at the casino playing slots trying to hit the big jackpot..

How is that not a choice?

[diuretic]

Know any Poor people?

I've met quite a few over the years, yes. I've seen plenty of poverty and squalor and hopelessness. I've also seen battlers trying to get ahead in very difficult circumstances.

[diuretic]

Bah - C'mon...you're SO OLD SKEWL! People are GONNA have sex! Instead of telling them information to HELP them - let's coddle their behavior and just hand out condoms at schools and stuff! GOD FORBID a Conservative try to teach the TRUTH of your words to people too self-centered to listen.

Yes, people are going to have sex when they become physically sexually active. Best to help them understand it all and how to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

[diuretic]

One of those poor people that don't have a job can come clean my house, so I can do other things...

That's a constructive response for sure - no I'm not being sarcastic.

[shattered]

That's a constructive response for sure - no I'm not being sarcastic.

Given the title of the thread "Hatred for the Poor", and the fact that this conversation ended up being about abortion and birth control instead, my comment wasn't any farther out of line than anyone elses. In fact, it was just as constructive as your comment pointing out how constructive it wasn't.

[diuretic]

Well, a good start would be those with 5-6 children who are on welfare..rather than spending their days looking for a job and/or going to school to get out of that predicament, they live in the slum areas of the city, and spend their days, and welfare checks down at the casino playing slots trying to hit the big jackpot..

How is that not a choice?

But how did they choose to get poor in the first place?