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    Default R-ratings on movies that have Smoking?

    Smoking will be a bigger factor in determining film ratings, the Motion Picture Association of America said Thursday, but critics said the move does not go far enough to discourage teens from taking up the habit.

    MPAA Chairman Dan Glickman said his group's ratings board, which previously had considered underage smoking in assigning film ratings, now will take into account smoking by adults, as well.

    That adds smoking to a list of such factors as sex, violence and language in determining the MPAA's G, PG, PG-13, R and NC-17 ratings.

    Film raters will consider the pervasiveness of tobacco use, whether it glamorizes smoking and the context in which smoking appears, as in movies set in the past when smoking was more common.

    Some critics of Hollywood's depictions of tobacco in films have urged that movies that show smoking be assigned an R rating, which would restrict those younger than 17 from seeing them.

    "I'm glad it's finally an issue they're taking up, but what they're proposing does not go far enough and is not going to make a difference," said Kori Titus, spokeswoman for Breathe California, which opposes film images of tobacco use that might encourage young people to start smoking.

    Glickman said a mandatory R rating for smoking would not "further the specific goal of providing information to parents on this issue."

    Smoking in movies with a G, PG or PG-13 rating has been on the decline, and the "percentage of films that included even a fleeting glimpse of smoking" declined from 60 percent to 52 percent between July 2004 and July 2006," Glickman said.

    Of those films, three-fourths received an R rating for other reasons, he said.

    "That means there's not a great amount of films in the unrestricted category as it stands," said Joan Graves, who heads the ratings board. "We're not saying we're ignoring the issue. We're trying the best way possible according to what we've learned from parents to give them information about what's in a film."

    Titus said smoking in films had declined in recent years but remains more prevalent than MPAA figures indicate.

    Descriptions on sex, violence and language that accompany movie ratings now will include such phrases as "glamorized smoking" or "pervasive smoking," Glickman said.

    If rated today, a film such as 2005's "Good Night, and Good Luck," about chain-smoking newsman Edward R. Murrow, would have carried a "pervasive smoking" tag but probably would have retained its PG rating because of its historical context in the 1950s, Graves said.

    Titus said film raters should be as tough on smoking as they are on bad language to minimize the effects of on-screen smoking on children, including her own 5-year-old daughter.

    "I don't want her using that language, but last time I checked, she's probably not going to die from that," Titus said. "If she starts smoking from these images she sees in movies, chances are she's probably going to die early from that."

    While Titus' group wants tougher ratings restrictions, the MPAA released statements of support for its plan from John Seffrin, chief executive officer of the American Cancer Society, U.S. Sen. Joe Biden and filmmaker Rob Reiner, among others.

    "By placing smoking on a par with considerations of violence and sex, the rating board has acknowledged the public-health dangers to children associated with glamorized images of a toxic and lethal addiction to tobacco," Barry Bloom, dean of the Harvard School of Public Health, said in a statement.

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    But sex is only PG13, and queer sex PG

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    But sex is only PG13, and queer sex PG
    I KNOW - that's the JACKED up part...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    But sex is only PG13, and queer sex PG
    What pg movie has a queer sex scene in it?
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    Plain stupid. Smoking is no worse then violence and cussing but that rarely get's a movie an R rating unless it's totally over the top graphic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    What pg movie has a queer sex scene in it?
    Half the TV shows have queers in them discussing queer sex. If smoking is to have an R rating then clearly homosexuality should have an R rating.

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    Smoking is fine in movies...as long as it's a gun after blowing someone's head off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Half the TV shows have queers in them discussing queer sex. If smoking is to have an R rating then clearly homosexuality should have an R rating.
    Will & Grace is the only one I can think of and tv shows aren't movies--and talking and making half-witted must-see-tv jokes hardly qualifies as being obscene, not to mention the show has an mpaa rating posted in the upper left-hand screen when it airs. Which PG movies were you talking about containing gay sex scenes? You weren't making something up to support your conservative viewpoint were you? Nah. You wouldn't do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Will & Grace is the only one I can think of and tv shows aren't movies--and talking and making half-witted must-see-tv jokes hardly qualifies as being obscene, not to mention the show has an mpaa rating posted in the upper left-hand screen when it airs. Which PG movies were you talking about containing gay sex scenes? You weren't making something up to support your conservative viewpoint were you? Nah. You wouldn't do that.
    Movies, TV, all the same shit as far as I'm concerned. I've never even watched Will and Grace but the queer thing is touted with every "teaser" ad for the show that pops up when I'm watching something else. That crap should have an R rating because it's immoral.

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    I'm gonna sorta throw a wrench in the monkey-works. I find my own attitude about this rather strange.

    I smoked for 55 years form 17 to 72, and quite cold turkey about five years ago. Now I have never been one to object to others smoking around me, and I even enjoy the smell of other folks smoke.

    But this comes up, and for some stupid reason, I see smoking scenes in the movies as wrong. I can't explain it, but I have an aversion of seeing it on the screen. DON-KNOW, it doesn't make sense to me either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doniston View Post
    I'm gonna sorta throw a wrench in the monkey-works. I find my own attitude about this rather strange.

    I smoked for 55 years form 17 to 72, and quite cold turkey about five years ago. Now I have never been one to object to others smoking around me, and I even enjoy the smell of other folks smoke.

    But this comes up, and for some stupid reason, I see smoking scenes in the movies as wrong. I can't explain it, but I have an aversion of seeing it on the screen. DON-KNOW, it doesn't make sense to me either.
    I guess if the big C hasn't got you yet, it never will... congrats on quitting. Is it true what they say about food tasting better?
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    I've been noticing lately, ALL the movies being made for HBO, and channels like that.....The whole dang cast seems to be smoking...

    I don't really care for it, myself..
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    We're becoming a nanny state right before my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Will & Grace is the only one I can think of and tv shows aren't movies--and talking and making half-witted must-see-tv jokes hardly qualifies as being obscene, not to mention the show has an mpaa rating posted in the upper left-hand screen when it airs. Which PG movies were you talking about containing gay sex scenes? You weren't making something up to support your conservative viewpoint were you? Nah. You wouldn't do that.
    What about that sickening movie, slamcock mountain? That should have been rated X!

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    Total bull shit.

    I think its bad enough that people in NY aren't allowed to exercise their right to smoke in a public facility.

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