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    NEW YORK — Men are more concerned with their partner's body type than women but they also seem to value family more highly, according to a new survey released on Tuesday.

    Nearly half of men questioned in the poll of 70,000 people said they would ditch a partner who gained weight, compared to only 20 percent of women.
    Two-third of men also said they had fantasized about their partner's friends, while only one-third of women had done so.
    "Even as men are getting more comfortable with meeting their girlfriends online and less anxious about who she's 'friending' there, other romantic behaviors have proven to be timeless ones: chivalry isn't dead, size matters, and women forgive while men forget," said James Bassil, editor-in-chief of AskMen, which conducted the poll jointly with Cosmopolitan.com.

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    Default Oh I guess That's why Im single

    oh well pass the Pâté

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloe View Post
    oh well pass the Pâté
    Ha! Me too. Most of the men I have known like the Hooter girl types, and I ain't never gonna be a big boobed size zero...so pass it over here when you are done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Ha! Me too. Most of the men I have known like the Hooter girl types, and I ain't never gonna be a big boobed size zero...so pass it over here when you are done.
    Yeah me neither sister, I like to eat and I got the knockers too I did a poll once at another board and all the men there said they didn't mind a little extra cushion, maybe they were lying but since its the net they don't really have to be polite huh?

    They posted pics of pretty women who were a little plump but not morbidly obese.


    Still I really do want to take this extra weight off I have quit working out for a couple months now and i feel lousy. I have been seeing this commercial constantly about "gout" I think I must have it, and NO BUNNY (in case you reading this) I ain't imagining a new disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    NEW YORK — Men are more concerned with their partner's body type than women but they also seem to value family more highly, according to a new survey released on Tuesday.

    Nearly half of men questioned in the poll of 70,000 people said they would ditch a partner who gained weight, compared to only 20 percent of women.
    Two-third of men also said they had fantasized about their partner's friends, while only one-third of women had done so.
    "Even as men are getting more comfortable with meeting their girlfriends online and less anxious about who she's 'friending' there, other romantic behaviors have proven to be timeless ones: chivalry isn't dead, size matters, and women forgive while men forget," said James Bassil, editor-in-chief of AskMen, which conducted the poll jointly with Cosmopolitan.com.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43898300
    I've had a few drinks and this is a topic that I am VERY passionate about so forgive me if I sound crass. With that said...
    The entire poll is bullshit. They are asking the wrong questions and don't have a damn clue.

    Here it is real simple:
    1. A man doesn't care about his woman gaining weight as long it is reasonable. Child birth will add pounds, no problem. Age will add pounds, no problem. Being lazy and becoming obese, we have a problem
    2. Fuck your man, know what he likes, and fuck him well. VERY well.
    3. Cook for your man and make him a meal that he will salivate over.

    Take everything I said as it applies to a woman, child birth notwithstanding, and apply it to yourself as a man, especially number 2.

    Do this, and nobody will be getting "ditched" on either side of the equation, unless they're an idiot.

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    From the link:
    Nearly 80 percent of men said they feel cheated by the divorce courts
    :bs:

    98% of men get cheated by divorce courts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    I've had a few drinks and this is a topic that I am VERY passionate about so forgive me if I sound crass. With that said...
    The entire poll is bullshit. They are asking the wrong questions and don't have a damn clue.

    Here it is real simple:
    1. A man doesn't care about his woman gaining weight as long it is reasonable. Child birth will add pounds, no problem. Age will add pounds, no problem. Being lazy and becoming obese, we have a problem

    Absolutely. "Gained weight"? Maybe the question was: "If your woman gained 100lbs...." Not 'If your woman gained ANY WEIGHT WHATSOEVER...'

    2. Fuck your man, know what he likes, and fuck him well. VERY well.
    Right - at least put up an effort to help your man feel like a s3xually-proficient/capable/even wonderful playmate.

    3. Cook for your man and make him a meal that he will salivate over.
    Why would a man want to be a meal he'd salivate over?

    Take everything I said as it applies to a woman, child birth notwithstanding, and apply it to yourself as a man, especially number 2.

    Do this, and nobody will be getting "ditched" on either side of the equation, unless they're an idiot.
    One thing i'd like to bring up -

    Our society is so jacked up with how we instruct folks on living with a partner. We need to be selfless towards one-another, within a committed relationship. Even a little co-dependent. Loving one's spouse more than ones-self - when both are doing that, things tend to work out. When both do that, there really isn't ever any 'cheating' - which is a word I abhor. As an aside- why the hell is it a 'woman's husband CHEATED on her..' when most-likely, the woman failed to even attempt to connect with her man. I've seen it dozens of times - overbearing, victim-mentality women who dog their man, humiliate him, refuse to adapt to HIS wishes or desires suddenly clamor for 'sympathy' when their man finally succumbs to a woman who does a LOT to help him feel like, and treats him like a Man - not just a 'male person'.

    Anywho....yeah. Silly survey.

    Course, my wife has a better body than the day we got married, so...I'm good
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    skinny girl, fat girl who cares....top of their heads all look the same in my eyes

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    Physical appearance is very low on my list of characteristics I find appealing in a woman. I'll take intelligence, common sense, sense of humor, self confidence, sense of responsibility, mutual respect, integrity, loyalty, mutual interests and dedication over looks anyday. The wrapping doesn't matter, it's the content (at least for me).
    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
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    I agree - but it IS nice to have my wife maintain this figure:



    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    I've had a few drinks and this is a topic that I am VERY passionate about so forgive me if I sound crass. With that said...
    The entire poll is bullshit. They are asking the wrong questions and don't have a damn clue.

    Here it is real simple:
    1. A man doesn't care about his woman gaining weight as long it is reasonable. Child birth will add pounds, no problem. Age will add pounds, no problem. Being lazy and becoming obese, we have a problem
    2. Fuck your man, know what he likes, and fuck him well. VERY well.
    3. Cook for your man and make him a meal that he will salivate over.

    Take everything I said as it applies to a woman, child birth notwithstanding, and apply it to yourself as a man, especially number 2.

    Do this, and nobody will be getting "ditched" on either side of the equation, unless they're an idiot.
    Okay...I agree that all of those listed items are great,but they seem a little on the shallow side to me. I would hope men were a little deeper than that (no offense) but sometimes I do wonder. When you ask a man what they like in a woman...they usually state things like... shared interests,shared values,looks are secondary blah blah blah...but when actually given a choice...they will pick the shallow,skanky woman as long as she has a good body more times then not. I've seen it happen over and over.

    Now...I genuinely find people interesting and like to find out what makes them tick,but I have to say that it is very rare (not that it has never happened) that I find a man that is interested in what I think or what I like etc. Especially when the relationship is no longer in the new stage.

    I will say this though...I think a good relationship starts out with a strong friendship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Okay...I agree that all of those listed items are great,but they seem a little on the shallow side to me. I would hope men were a little deeper than that (no offense) but sometimes I do wonder. When you ask a man what they like in a woman...they usually state things like... shared interests,shared values,looks are secondary blah blah blah...but when actually given a choice...they will pick the shallow,skanky woman as long as she has a good body more times then not. I've seen it happen over and over.

    Now...I genuinely find people interesting and like to find out what makes them tick,but I have to say that it is very rare (not that it has never happened) that I find a man that is interested in what I think or what I like etc. Especially when the relationship is no longer in the new stage.

    I will say this though...I think a good relationship starts out with a strong friendship.
    Men want a female who will mate with them. That trumps all - especially if the woman who mates with them conducts herself in a way to stroke the ego (and other parts?) of the man in a way that conveys acceptance of his s3xual prowess.

    My ex was, physically, my ideal. However, we didn't synch on very important issues. My wife is nearly the opposite of my ideas (she's too tall, introvert, etc), but when the zombies attack, I want her on my team for a lot of the reasons you listed above.

    I'm scared of 'friendship' when thinking of a potential mate. I sorta think a good relationship starts out with a strong sexual/emotional connection. It's easier to teach friendship than passion.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Men want a female who will mate with them. That trumps all - especially if the woman who mates with them conducts herself in a way to stroke the ego (and other parts?) of the man in a way that conveys acceptance of his s3xual prowess.

    My ex was, physically, my ideal. However, we didn't synch on very important issues. My wife is nearly the opposite of my ideas (she's too tall, introvert, etc), but when the zombies attack, I want her on my team for a lot of the reasons you listed above.

    I'm scared of 'friendship' when thinking of a potential mate. I sorta think a good relationship starts out with a strong sexual/emotional connection. It's easier to teach friendship than passion.
    Well...I agree...that was pretty much my point also. The characteristics that make a woman a good partner are usually always secondary to getting a good piece of ass (or just the thought of getting a good piece of ass) for a lot of men. However, the woman who has learned the art of stroking your ego,has learned that is also the way to get exactly what she wants from you. This is also the kind of woman most men say they don't like...but usually end up with.

    I guess if being used is what you are looking for in a mate that would be the way to go for sure though...women for sex...men through sex. I just wonder how many no where relationships people have to go through before they actually decide what they really need is a "partner"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Well...I agree...that was pretty much my point also. The characteristics that make a woman a good partner are usually always secondary to getting a good piece of ass (or just the thought of getting a good piece of ass) for a lot of men. However, the woman who has learned the art of stroking your ego,has learned that is also the way to get exactly what she wants from you. This is also the kind of woman most men say they don't like...but usually end up with.
    OR....She loves her man and wants to ensure he feels good about that aspect of their relationship. Helping one's partner feel confident in such a very personal area is part of what makes a great relationship. NEVER manipulating; only encouraging.

    I guess if being used is what you are looking for in a mate that would be the way to go for sure though...women for sex...men through sex. I just wonder how many no where relationships people have to go through before they actually decide what they really need is a "partner"?
    I knew what I wanted in a mate after my first adult relationship. I married a woman who wasn't that. Turns out though, beyond what I 'knew' I wanted, she is who I may 'need'. Make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Men want a female who will mate with them. That trumps all - especially if the woman who mates with them conducts herself in a way to stroke the ego (and other parts?) of the man in a way that conveys acceptance of his s3xual prowess.

    My ex was, physically, my ideal. However, we didn't synch on very important issues. My wife is nearly the opposite of my ideas (she's too tall, introvert, etc), but when the zombies attack, I want her on my team for a lot of the reasons you listed above.

    I'm scared of 'friendship' when thinking of a potential mate. I sorta think a good relationship starts out with a strong sexual/emotional connection. It's easier to teach friendship than passion.
    Agreed Men need nurturing and passionate expressions about how much they excite there woman, it's a affirming of how happy she makes him when she is able to express it in the bedroom.

    I was married and divorced two times. Now my first husband was a horrible drunk and he used to beat me up when in a drunken rage but the rest of the time when he wasnt drunk we got along great. He had a really warped sense of humor and we would make each other laugh for hours. He also was charismatic, eccentric and attractive to me and so I always felt attracted to him physically and that is why when he apologized for hitting me I always forgave him and took him back. It was crazy to take that from him but the attraction made me irrational.

    My 2nd ex Husband (the attorney) I met in AA we were all about "getting healthy" staying sober, I had my 2 kids with him. I stayed married to him much longer then my first husband. He went to law school, opened a law office, we stuck out the rough years together. I took care of him, the kids, his grandma. I was on the PTA. I was dutiful, I cooked and cleaned and made a nice home for us all. But there was NO passion between us. In fact it was like a chore, The marriage was depressing and soon he strayed and I was in my own bubble world not realizing he was cheating until much later.

    Now that I am divorced and have been alone 11 yrs I have thought alot about it. I miss being married and the sharing family events and good times with a husband, the comfort and coziness of companionship. But if I had to choose a husband again I definately would want to feel attracted to him passionately not just compatible on daily routine stuff. I'd rather be alone if I can't have the passion of attraction in my relationship.

    My mom and step dad have been married since the early 70's and they still make out (gross) in the kitchen they still flirt and all that jazz they are honestly really attracted to each other. So when they do squabble it is not the end of the world because soon enough they are laughing and loving again.

    Lastly, Attraction from what DMP describes is not only physical looks for men, from what I am understanding it is also how the woman makes the man feel about himself and that is nice. It is the same for woman they like to feel good about themselves too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Men want a female who will mate with them. That trumps all - especially if the woman who mates with them conducts herself in a way to stroke the ego (and other parts?) of the man in a way that conveys acceptance of his s3xual prowess.

    My ex was, physically, my ideal. However, we didn't synch on very important issues. My wife is nearly the opposite of my ideas (she's too tall, introvert, etc), but when the zombies attack, I want her on my team for a lot of the reasons you listed above.

    I'm scared of 'friendship' when thinking of a potential mate. I sorta think a good relationship starts out with a strong sexual/emotional connection. It's easier to teach friendship than passion.
    So,how important is the above to most people? Is it a deal breaker if your SO doesn't tend to defend you,but rather leaves you to the wolves (so to speak)? Do you care if they have your back? Or if they always take the other side of an argument? Just curious?

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