Scientific criticism has no nobler task than to shatter false beliefs.

[Gunny]

A statement used with the utmost dishonesty.

Science isn't used at all to dispel religion because quite simply, science cannot do so.

Scientific theory is used in an attempt to dispel religion when the factual reality is that most scientific theories of origin and/or used in an attempt to dispel religion have no more basis in fact than any religion. In fact, some scientific theories of origin are WAY more fantastic than any religious beliefs.

The "Big Bang" -- something from nothing. Violates a basic scientific tenet.

The "Expanding Universe" -- a joke. If one cannot pinpoint the center of the universe nor its frontier ... well ... 'nuff said there.

Darwin's Theory of Evolution -- a fairy tell if ever there is one. Most commonly used by the intellectually dishonest to cherrypick between actual scientific evolution and Darwinism as it suits their argument, the same as they attempt to play smoke and mirrors with science and scientific theory.

[Missileman]

A statement used with the utmost dishonesty.

Science isn't used at all to dispel religion because quite simply, science cannot do so.

Scientific theory is used in an attempt to dispel religion when the factual reality is that most scientific theories of origin and/or used in an attempt to dispel religion have no more basis in fact than any religion. In fact, some scientific theories of origin are WAY more fantastic than any religious beliefs.

The "Big Bang" -- something from nothing. Violates a basic scientific tenet.

The "Expanding Universe" -- a joke. If one cannot pinpoint the center of the universe nor its frontier ... well ... 'nuff said there.

Darwin's Theory of Evolution -- a fairy tell if ever there is one. Most commonly used by the intellectually dishonest to cherrypick between actual scientific evolution and Darwinism as it suits their argument, the same as they attempt to play smoke and mirrors with science and scientific theory.

Was your subconscious equation of "religion" and "false belief" a freudian slip?

[Gunny]

Was your subconscious equation of "religion" and "false belief" a freudian slip?

No more so than my equation of "scientific theory," "religion" and "false belief". The key to all 3 being "belief", rendering one no more or less valid than the other.

Trying to cloak junk scientific theory in the guise of actual proven science is nothing more than a lie.

[Missileman]

No more so than my equation of "scientific theory," "religion" and "false belief". The key to all 3 being "belief", rendering one no more or less valid than the other.

Trying to cloak junk scientific theory in the guise of actual proven science is nothing more than a lie.

So in your estimation, "OJ killed his ex-wife", "she was killed in a drug deal gone bad", or "she cut her own throat" are all exactly equally valid beliefs?

[Gunny]

So in your estimation, "OJ killed his ex-wife", "she was killed in a drug deal gone bad", or "she cut her own throat" are all exactly equally valid beliefs?

Another of your playing semantics red herrings?

All are equally valid theories as none were proven true. The only provable fact in all 3 assumptions is that OJ's wife was killed.

None of which has a thing to do with my point.

[Missileman]

Another of your playing semantics red herrings?

All are equally valid theories as none were proven true. The only provable fact in all 3 assumptions is that OJ's wife was killed.

None of which has a thing to do with my point.

There's a difference between the theories based on the amount of evidence to support each.

BTW, it appears that not only are you unfamiliar with the definition of semantics, but it also appears you have no idea what a red herring is either.

[J.T]

A statement used with the utmost dishonesty.

Science isn't used at all to dispel religion because quite simply, science cannot do so.

So when you hear 'false beliefs', you immediately think of your religion?

That's funny, since that's not what's being discussed in the text from which that quote is taken.

Good to hear you admit your religion is bullshit, though. You're making progress.

Scientific theory is used in an attempt to dispel religion

No, it's not. You don't even know what a scientific theory is. You probably meant to make a claim regarding the scientific method but, as usual, you have no idea what you're blabbering about.

The "Big Bang" -- something from nothing. Violates a basic scientific tenet.

TBBT doesn't say anything of the sort. It doesn't say anything about the origins of the universe. It simply describes the evolution of the universe going back to a period of rapid expansion and extreme localized heat, pressure, and density and proceeding to the current day.

The "Expanding Universe" -- a joke. If one cannot pinpoint the center of the universe nor its frontier ... well ... 'nuff said there.

So how would you describe a universe that is expanding in every direction if not by saying that it's expanding? I'd mention red shift, but that would involve words with more than a single syllable, so I know it'd be a futile exercise to attempt to make you less stupid when it comes to the matter.

Darwin's Theory of Evolution -- a fairy tell if ever there is one

How do you explain human evolution, nylonase, speciation... ?

Most commonly used by the intellectually dishonest to cherrypick between actual scientific evolution and Darwinism

[J.T]

No more so than my equation of "scientific theory," "religion" and "false belief". The key to all 3 being "belief", rendering one no more or less valid than the other.

Trying to cloak junk scientific theory in the guise of actual proven science is nothing more than a lie.

'Scientific theory' = 'false belief'?

So... how, exactly, do we have satellite communications if the General Theory of Relativity (a scientific theory) is as you claim?

[ConHog]

'Scientific theory' = 'false belief'?

So... how, exactly, do we have satellite communications if the General Theory of Relativity (a scientific theory) is as you claim?

What in the blue bloody hell does the theory of relativity have to do with radio communications?

[J.T]

What in the blue bloody hell does the theory of relativity have to do with radio communications?

Who's talking about radio? We're talking about the time effects experienced by orbiting satellites and general relativity's role in allowing us to compensate for this, thereby making GPS and advanced satellite communications possible.

Try googling it. Perhaps you'll learn something and become less stupid.

[ConHog]

Who's talking about radio? We're talking about the time effects experienced by orbiting satellites and general relativity's role in allowing us to compensate for this, thereby making GPS and advanced satellite communications possible.

Try googling it. Perhaps you'll learn something and become less stupid.

Unlike you I have a life and thus don't really have the time to Google oddities to try to stretch into some sort of argument on the internet that doesn't even matter.

[J.T]

I take your blind insults as an admission that you had no idea what you were babbling about and look like an idiot for trying to lie about what I said. Par for the course with you.

[KarlMarx]

'Scientific theory' = 'false belief'?

So... how, exactly, do we have satellite communications if the General Theory of Relativity (a scientific theory) is as you claim?

Time Dilation due to high speeds. A body that is traveling at a speed that is an appreciably fraction of the speed of light will experience time dilation. This affects satellites, e.g. GPS, that need to use time in order to accurately track bodies on earth.

It is a practical application of the special theory of Relativity.

That having been said.

Another truth that I see is that atheists seem to like to evangelize to those who believe in God. They accuse Christians of trying to push their beliefs on others, then do it themselves. I've seen this happen at least twice on this board. They become very indignant and frustrated when believers refuse to abandon their beliefs because of their logic.

Oh, and by the way, just because you don't believe in God doesn't make you better than those of us who do.

If you don't want to believe in God, go right ahead. Just keep your lack of faith to yourself. No one here is pounding you over the head with a Bible, so do us a favor and don't pound us over the head with Einstein (or Sagan, or Hawkings, etc)

[ConHog]

Time Dilation due to high speeds. A body that is traveling at a speed that is an appreciably fraction of the speed of light will experience time dilation. This affects satellites, e.g. GPS, that need to use time in order to accurately track bodies on earth.

It is a practical application of the special theory of Relativity.

That having been said.

Another truth that I see is that atheists seem to like to evangelize to those who believe in God. They accuse Christians of trying to push their beliefs on others, then do it themselves. I've seen this happen at least twice on this board. They become very indignant and frustrated when believers refuse to abandon their beliefs because of their logic.

Oh, and by the way, just because you don't believe in God doesn't make you better than those of us who do.

If you don't want to believe in God, go right ahead. Just keep your lack of faith to yourself. No one here is pounding you over the head with a Bible, so do us a favor and don't pound us over the head with Einstein (or Sagan, or Hawkings, etc)

Just another case of people only caring about THEIR rights, not the rights of those they wish to trample on.

[Missileman]

Just another case of people only caring about THEIR rights, not the rights of those they wish to trample on.

Oh, I don't know...I consider it a public service to refute something so patently ignorant as saying scientific theories are false beliefs. If allowed to stand unchallenged, some simple-minded, impressionable individual might accept such a bogus statement as gospel...then another, and another and before you know it, you've got a full blown religion on your hands.