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    And another thing!

    If we know so much about weather systems, why is it that the weather prediction industry which has billions in satellites, monitoring stations and tens of thousands of very smart & educated people specializing in that field can't tell us if it's going to rain 2 days from now?

    Or if it's a secret military plot and they have all the info that they keep from the public, why is it that they can't create perfect flying weather for when they have an important mission to carry out on a certain day? Instead, missions get scrubbed all the time because the weather doesn't cooperate with their planning. Why wouldn't we just magic up a storm to park over Tehran and let it take care of business for us?

    Why wouldn't Putin order up a storm to keep Ukraine bogged down in their infamous mud? Instead, both sides endure the wet season and wait until things cycle through like they always have. I haven't seen any unfamiliar weather magic over there in that desperate struggle, so I'm pretty sure Russia doesn't have the tech either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    No, Rev, I'm not saying that man hasn't tried to control weather, because it's well documented that we have tried. It's far too complex to predict what will happen when weather is tampered with. I remember reading about an experiment back in the 50s or early 60s when the US military seeded a small quall out in the Atlantic and it morphed into a Cat4 or Cat5 beast that made landfall and beat the hell out of the American coast states. It's impossible to say with certainty that it wouldn't have done that by itself anyway, but the strong suspicion is that it was greatly enhanced accidentally by the experiment before it ultimately petered out and dispersed normally. Kind of a Butterfly Effect on steroids.

    My position is that we learned from those experiments and realized that we don't know enough about our weather systems, wind currents, solar activity, etc., to fool with it lest we create another mega storm that knocks the hell out of populated areas to the tune of hundreds of deaths and billions of dollars in damage.

    My Dad was a sergeant in the Army before he got out, and he was privy to some government projects that were unreal in the results and he firmly believed that the government was actively working on weather control, just as the USSR was as a counter. And Alaska is on the frontlines of that particular struggle - we'd try to send storms over Siberia across the strait and they'd return the favor, as Dad told us a few times. I was always pretty skeptical of that notion, same as I am today.

    And I've read about the CIA seeding massive systems over Vietnam to make life miserable for the VC in the rainforest jungles, but it wasn't effective - sometimes it worked, other times it didn't. There were too many variables involved, and worse, we didn't know all the variables - and still dont.

    Everyone knows we can seed clouds. But we can't control where those resulting enhanced storms travel to, because they create their own winds and there's no way to predict which way it ends up going OR how powerful they'll get. I don't think we're attempting to control it because it's a fool's errand.

    The worst hurricanes ever recorded are from the 1800s - early 1900s. I don't think those folk were using slingshots or bow & arrows to seed clouds. They were seeding the South 40 behind a mule.

    Sometimes hurricanes form. They form naturally, as they've always done. And sometimes they beat the hell out of the East Coast, just like they've always done.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
    All i can say is I don't know what's possible today,
    or what's working to the point of manageable control Night train.

    I'm not going off my gut.
    But From what I've read, some posted here, weather modification has been an ONGOING project around the world since the 1950s. And a real enough option for hundreds of nations to sign onto a treaty NOT to use it for military purposes.
    Not sure how you're so confident that it's extremely unlikely.

    What has or hasn't been successful, I'm not as confident as you in saying.
    And you know very well that the fact that it's a fools errand has never been a big deterrent for people doing stupid things. Especially if it means gaining an upper hand politically or financially.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,
    But if they've been spending millions (billions?) on producing special cigars, world wide, for 50+ years it's not crazy to consider that you may be looking at one from time to time.
    It is a question worth asking seriously.
    despite people's incredulity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    And another thing!

    If we know so much about weather systems, why is it that the weather prediction industry which has billions in satellites, monitoring stations and tens of thousands of very smart & educated people specializing in that field can't tell us if it's going to rain 2 days from now?

    Or if it's a secret military plot and they have all the info that they keep from the public, why is it that they can't create perfect flying weather for when they have an important mission to carry out on a certain day? Instead, missions get scrubbed all the time because the weather doesn't cooperate with their planning. Why wouldn't we just magic up a storm to park over Tehran and let it take care of business for us?

    Why wouldn't Putin order up a storm to keep Ukraine bogged down in their infamous mud? Instead, both sides endure the wet season and wait until things cycle through like they always have. I haven't seen any unfamiliar weather magic over there in that desperate struggle, so I'm pretty sure Russia doesn't have the tech either.
    Why would they have a treaty against it's Use if was NEVER going to be an issue?

    we don't have treaties against Time travel or Dragons or magic wands.

    .....

    BTW
    From the Air War College, Maxwell Air Force Base 1997
    Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025

    "...‘Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international security and could be done unilaterally… It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify space weather… and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of [military] technologies.’..."
    https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA333462.pdf
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    Haarp is or was up in Alaska

    here's an old Canadian Broadcasting "investigation"

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Haarp is or was up in Alaska

    here's an old Canadian Broadcasting "investigation"


    I used to live a few miles away from HAARP. Remember the bigfoot story? That was about 40 miles from HAARP. I can't tell you how many times people told fantastical stories about the Air Force in Gakona doing something along the lines of Mickey Mouse in Fantasia, wielding thunder & lightning with massive storms as we lived right there. Nothing ever happened that was unusual, unless they were responsible for the incredible mosquito population.

    The USAF transferred that facility to University of Alaska Fairbanks years ago. They'd gotten their research done that they wanted in the Ionosphere and turned it over to them. It wasn't weather related; it was to study what happens with high energy up that high - research like that led to GPS, LIDAR, long distance radio functions, laser communications, satellite comms, stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    All i can say is I don't know what's possible today,
    or what's working to the point of manageable control Night train.

    I'm not going off my gut.
    But From what I've read, some posted here, weather modification has been an ONGOING project around the world since the 1950s. And a real enough option for hundreds of nations to sign onto a treaty NOT to use it for military purposes.
    Not sure how you're so confident that it's extremely unlikely.

    What has or hasn't been successful, I'm not as confident as you in saying.
    And you know very well that the fact that it's a fools errand has never been a big deterrent for people doing stupid things. Especially if it means gaining an upper hand politically or financially.

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,
    But if they've been spending millions (billions?) on producing special cigars, world wide, for 50+ years it's not crazy to consider that you may be looking at one from time to time.
    It is a question worth asking seriously.
    despite people's incredulity.

    It's been tried, but you can't point it in a safe direction.

    The reason that there's a treaty is because no one wants some weather nerds experimenting off their coast in a C-130 creating a Cat5. It's pretty easy to imagine after we did it to ourselves. It wouldn't be that difficult for the USAF or USN to relocate the experiments from Florida to off the coast of some 3rd world country to try and perfect weather systems after our unfortunate experience with it.

    Just because the government has looked into things and run experiments doesn't mean it's a viable idea. They've also done countless telekinesis, remote viewing and ESP experiments - spent many millions of dollars and countless years doing it, but it never panned out.

    The reason I'm confident it's not going on is for the reasons I already outline up above : If the US Gov & Military were capable of weather control, they'd damn sure do it when it really matters - instead, they get rained out just like anyone else. There's no evidence that it's a viable field and everything I've read said we looked into it but discarded it because it's completely unreliable and dangerous. The Russians came to the same conclusion and scrapped it, too.
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    NT You seem to have the idea that weather modification, if possible, should work like magic.
    They point at the sky & it clears instantly or something.
    Rather than simply working 75-90% of the time over the course of days to get a general result.
    Or simply enhances whats already in play. But to your point, the only weather modification i've heard of that stops weather is local fog clearing.
    Maybe we simply can not effectively STOP rain, snow, lightening, hail, hurricanes or earthquakes. But we can start them.
    You suggest that the DOD or others would completely ignore the treaty and use the tech to harm others to the point of wiping others out. So we'd see the results.
    Why would they have to do that? Rather than use it subtly, secretly in ways to mask the use. Since it does break the treaty to use it for harm.

    Like I said, I can't say what the DOD is doing with Weather modification at this point. Or if at all.
    Or what other Gov't agencies are doing. Overtly or Covertly. Or if at all.
    BUt IMO it's a legit question. Especially in the light of the fact the DOD and other agencies HAVE used MKUltra and illegal Bio-weapons & worked up secret bio weapons labs world wide. In spite of treaties & laws. Why should we assume the best?

    Concerning the viablity we can know there's a limited but growing private sector weather modification industry (unlike telekinesis & ESP).
    Good thing there's no such thing a public private partnerships, or other ways Govts work with or as private firms.


    https://www.marketresearchstrategy.com/reports/energy-power/weather-modification-market

    Report Description

    The global Weather Modification market size is estimated at USD 152.3 million in 2020, expanding at a CAGR of 9.6% from 2021-2027 to reach 290.5 million USD in 2027.

    Market Dynamics
    In the future, the worldwide weather modification industry is projected to develop at a rapid rate. Several reasons, such as declining precipitation rates and the growing concern of water shortages, are expected to drive market expansion in the future. In addition, the expansion of a number of weather modification projects creates a plethora of chances for the weather modification industry to develop considerably in the future. The increase is due to a decrease in rainfall rates throughout the world as a result of global warming and pollution.

    The substance used in cloud seeding, silver iodide, is hazardous to aquatic life. As a result, the environment may be harmed by precipitation from planted clouds. Scientists have investigated non-toxic silver iodide substitutes in response to concerns. It has been established that calcium chloride is effective. The heavy metal ion silver is one of the most poisonous, especially to microorganisms and fish. Nonetheless, the ease with which Ag creates insoluble compounds diminishes its significance as a pollutant in the environment. Either through the terrestrial or marine food systems, agriculture is unlikely to concentrate at hazardous levels.

    Seeding for fog dissipation, hail suppression, snowfall, and rainfall augmentation, and other applications make up the market. The need for weather manipulation to avert disasters such as hailstorms is also limited due to the rarity of such occurrences. As a result, Snowfall and Rainfall Augmentation is the most popular sector in this industry. Various countries have employed this approach in drought-stricken areas on many occasions. Fog dissipation, on the other hand, is projected to increase throughout the projection period as a result of expanding companies in various locations, particularly in emerging nations, implying improved infrastructure.

    North America, Asia-Pacific, Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, and Latin America are the five areas that make up the worldwide Weather Modification market. The APAC region is expected to dominate the worldwide weather modification industry, with China leading the way in terms of market share. China has spent a lot of money on weather manipulation in order to be as independent as possible from unpredictable rainfall and to improve its water supply. This is part of their plan to create their own 'Tianhe,' or Sky River, which will span 1.6 million square kilometers. In India, the states of Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, and Maharashtra are implementing weather manipulation projects.

    China will expand its weather manipulation program to encompass an area greater than India on December 4, 2020. Due to the advancements in research and improvements in comprehensive risk avoidance, China will build a weather modification system by 2025. In the next five years, the total area covered by artificial rain or snowfall will exceed 5.5 million sq km, with hail suppression technology covering over 580,000 sq km.

    The report begins with an overview of the Industry Chain structure, and describes the industry environment, then analyses market size and forecast of Weather Modifications by type, region, and application. In addition, this report introduces the market competition situation among the vendors and company profile, besides, market price analysis and value chain features are covered in this report....
    ................

    This link says the weather modification equipment market is rising to over a billion.
    https://dataintelo.com/report/global-weather-modification-equipment-market
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    ....If the US Gov & Military were capable of weather control, they'd damn sure do it when it really matters - instead, they get rained out just like anyone else. There's no evidence that it's a viable field ....

    Company offers rain-free wedding days for £100,000
    A luxury holiday company is offering to use geo-engineering to guarantee ‘fair weather and clear skies’ – for a starting price tag of £100,000
    https://www.theguardian.com/sustaina...ddings-company



    Maybe the DOD needs to hire this company from time to time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    NT You seem to have the idea that weather modification, if possible, should work like magic.
    They point at the sky & it clears instantly or something.
    Rather than simply working 75-90% of the time over the course of days to get a general result.
    Or simply enhances whats already in play. But to your point, the only weather modification i've heard of that stops weather is local fog clearing.
    Maybe we simply can not effectively STOP rain, snow, lightening, hail, hurricanes or earthquakes. But we can start them.
    You suggest that the DOD or others would completely ignore the treaty and use the tech to harm others to the point of wiping others out. So we'd see the results.
    Why would they have to do that? Rather than use it subtly, secretly in ways to mask the use. Since it does break the treaty to use it for harm.

    Like I said, I can't say what the DOD is doing with Weather modification at this point. Or if at all.
    Or what other Gov't agencies are doing. Overtly or Covertly. Or if at all.
    BUt IMO it's a legit question. Especially in the light of the fact the DOD and other agencies HAVE used MKUltra and illegal Bio-weapons & worked up secret bio weapons labs world wide. In spite of treaties & laws. Why should we assume the best?

    Concerning the viablity we can know there's a limited but growing private sector weather modification industry (unlike telekinesis & ESP).
    Good thing there's no such thing a public private partnerships, or other ways Govts work with or as private firms.

    Well, Rev, you've been right and I've been wrong before about different subjects that seemed preposterous and outlandish. This may be another one, but I hope that I'm right for all of our sake. I'm a long way from Ground Zero if you're right, but those giant storms down in the Gulf definitely have a big affect on my weather up here.

    You know that you make me actually cringe when you trot out that BS site, right? I think those guys are with the global site out of Canada run by that band of merry nutjobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Company offers rain-free wedding days for £100,000
    A luxury holiday company is offering to use geo-engineering to guarantee ‘fair weather and clear skies’ – for a starting price tag of £100,000
    https://www.theguardian.com/sustaina...ddings-company



    Maybe the DOD needs to hire this company from time to time?

    There's also companies guaranteeing bald men full heads of hair and an extra large penis with a few easy payments on your credit card.


    @Gunny can you confirm if those work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    There's also companies guaranteeing bald men full heads of hair and an extra large penis with a few easy payments on your credit card.

    Plenty of folks in the DOD could (have?!) probably use them too.
    "black budget", "top secret" line items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Well, Rev, you've been right and I've been wrong before about different subjects that seemed preposterous and outlandish. This may be another one, but I hope that I'm right for all of our sake. I'm a long way from Ground Zero if you're right, but those giant storms down in the Gulf definitely have a big affect on my weather up here.

    You know that you make me actually cringe when you trot out that BS site, right? I think those guys are with the global site out of Canada run by that band of merry nutjobs.
    Like I've said, I don't know if weather modification techniques were used for the recent storms.
    How could we prove it?
    But I do not think it's far fetched or outlandish to ask if weather modification techniques could have been used.

    As you said, the tech's been tested years ago
    and at that time it causes problems in the sense that it made weather more dangerous & it was uncontrollable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Like I've said, I don't know if weather modification techniques were used for the recent storms.
    How could we prove it?
    But I do not think it's far fetched or outlandish to ask if it has been.

    As you said, the tech has been tested years ago and at that time it causes problems in the sense that it made wether more dangerous & it was uncontrollable.

    Well, IF those two hurricanes were man made, they sure as hell aren't going to 'fess up to it now. That would be involuntary manslaughter and assault, plus billions in damage.

    But I'm positive they were Acts of God and completely natural. Kamala sure tried to latch on to that to try and change the failing trajectory of her campaign, but it backfired like everything else her and Biden touch.

    DeSantis came out like a pro and is getting Kudos for handling the aftermath. He's about the only winner I can see here, so I imagine he's the Prime Suspect - except he's not running for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    There's also companies guaranteeing bald men full heads of hair and an extra large penis with a few easy payments on your credit card.


    @Gunny can you confirm if those work?


    Nope. Neither on my necessity list
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