Roll over from "Does God Exist" - How old is the Earth?

[5stringJeff]

How does the theory of evolution deny the existance of a God or supernatural?

It denies that God is the author of life.

[Mr. P]

How does the theory of evolution deny the existance of a God or supernatural?

It doesn’t, but from a Fundies point of view, if it ain’t in ‘The Book’, it ain’t, end of story.

So much for that ‘open’ mindedness or ‘ANYTHING which may be from a different point of view’, position D spouts, huh?

[Mr. P]

It denies that God is the author of life.

Show me, Jeff.

[The ClayTaurus]

It denies that God is the author of life.

No it doesn't. Evolution is NOT a creation theory.

[darin]

It doesn’t, but from a Fundies point of view, if it ain’t in ‘The Book’, it ain’t, end of story.

So much for that ‘open’ mindedness or ‘ANYTHING which may be from a different point of view’, position D spouts, huh?

You absolute have NOTHING to debate in this thread; you are simply using it as a way to insult those who don't agree with you. It's petty and a bit pathetic.

[5stringJeff]

Show me, Jeff.

Evolution theory teaches that life was produced by non-life. The Bible (Genesis 2:7) says that "the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature." Both cannot be true.

[Mr. P]

You absolute have NOTHING to debate in this thread; you are simply using it as a way to insult those who don't agree with you. It's petty and a bit pathetic.

So, you can successfully debate that your beliefs are correct and prove that everyone else is wrong?

The problem here is belief is not debatable, only facts are. So toss the facts out there that ‘prove’ you’re right.

BTW, evolution does exist. So, who do you think created it?

Let me get my popcorn this will be good.

[The ClayTaurus]

Evolution theory teaches that life was produced by non-life. The Bible (Genesis 2:7) says that "the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature." Both cannot be true.

What is your response to the idea of Theistic Evolution?

[5stringJeff]

What is your response to the idea of Theistic Evolution?

I believe it would be a logical extension of Deism, but I don't believe the Bible supports it.

[Mr. P]

Evolution theory teaches that life was produced by non-life. The Bible (Genesis 2:7) says that "the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature." Both cannot be true.

It does not say there is no God. non-life was created it just didn't happen.
And God has 'always' been, right? These are things the human mind just can not comprehend, an so, we turn to a coping mechanism, faith a book and religion. It works for Billions of people.
The problems occur when one ‘group’ claims they, and only they, have the way the answers and want the rest to follow. It’s all about belief.

[5stringJeff]

It does not say there is no God. non-life was created it just didn't happen.

So if non-life was created, by whom was it created? And if that person/thing/force could create non-life, why could it not create life?

And God has 'always' been, right? These are things the human mind just can not comprehend, an so, we turn to a coping mechanism, faith a book and religion. It works for Billions of people.
The problems occur when one ‘group’ claims they, and only they, have the way the answers and want the rest to follow. It’s all about belief.

Actually, it's all about truth - finding the truth and then understanding the consequences of the truth.

[The ClayTaurus]

I believe it would be a logical extension of Deism, but I don't believe the Bible supports it.

So evolution does not deny the existance of a God or other supernatural.

Evolution also does not deny that a God or supernatural may be responsible for it's (evolution's) creation/existance.

What evolution does deny is the idea that species have been, are, and will be vaccuum packaged - they may not have all been created the same day, but they were all each uniquely created.

So, basically, depending on your interpretation of the Bible, evolution only disagrees with how each individual specie came to be, as opposed to how life in general came to be. Correct?

[Mr. P]

So if non-life was created, by whom was it created? And if that person/thing/force could create non-life, why could it not create life?



Actually, it's all about truth - finding the truth and then understanding the consequences of the truth.

I don't know who created it and never would claim to without solid proof, no one else knows either.

The truth in a case like this is a belief based on faith alone, not facts.

It's a non arguable subject. My main objective is to point out these 'I'm right' claims cannot be proven by anyone that claim to have the answers, because there is no proof. Like I said it's all belief.

[Gunny]

I believe it would be a logical extension of Deism, but I don't believe the Bible supports it.

Everything that lives is evolving. Anything not evolving is dead. Evolution is life's continual attempt to alter itself in order to survive its ever-changing environment.

The Bible supports evolution. The Bible is in and of itself the evolution of Judaism and Christianity. Christianity itself evolved from Judaism.

The Bible does not support scientific theories of origin. Neither do any real facts. However, there are also no facts to support Creationism.

It's all about faith. You either have it or you don't. If you do, you aren't going to argue it into anyone who is not receptive to the message Christ brings.

[-Cp]

Everything that lives is evolving. Anything not evolving is dead. Evolution is life's continual attempt to alter itself in order to survive its ever-changing environment.

The Bible supports evolution. The Bible is in and of itself the evolution of Judaism and Christianity. Christianity itself evolved from Judaism.

The Bible does not support scientific theories of origin. Neither do any real facts. However, there are also no facts to support Creationism.

It's all about faith. You either have it or you don't. If you do, you aren't going to argue it into anyone who is not receptive to the message Christ brings.

I think you're confusing facts w/ evidence.....

Neither side has any "facts" - both sides are, however, supported by the interpetation of the same evidence as both sides have the same evidence...