I googled your handle the other day and saw the connection.Originally Posted by Elessar
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I googled your handle the other day and saw the connection.
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I am simply fascinated by the epic works of JRR Tolkien!I googled your handle the other day and saw the connection.
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Many are. My cousin is obsessed with the movies, too. You?
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Yes. I have them all in the Extended Editions.
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The Conservative Mind: From Burke to Eliot by Russell Kirk
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
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Now reading a first edition copy of , Corner Men, great boxing trainers by Ronald K. Fried..
This book gives great insight into the boxing greats and boxing in general.
Loaded with previously unknown facts about both legendary boxers and their trainers/corner men.
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Looks interesting even though it sounds as if it's wants to toss out some "early church" teaching as it wants to embrace "early church" life and power.
seems to me you can't have one without the other though.
the teaching was counter culture.
It was in stark contrast to a full on pagan multi cultural Mediterranean society fill with worship of many gods as well as some philosophical atheism, 100% authoritarian gov't, religious and secular amoral sexual practices, society sanctioned polygamy, secret religious cults, polytheism, slavery, drug and alcohol abuse, witchcraft, demonology, local superstitions, etc etc . As well as in contrast to the stiff and exclusive jewish tradition of the day.
But the Christian good news of Jesus Death and Rising from the dead for the forgiveness of sins of ALL peoples...
(Sins God outlined by Moses BTW) ...and eternal life after death. With a personal connection to God and access to the power for a lifestyle of love and Christian holiness/morals ripped through that culture and changed the world.
But you don't get get the change without the doctrinal beliefs. Primarily death, resurrection, sin, forgiveness, eternally life, love and moral living as defined by the apostles and prophets.
But the escliasiality structures and church orders are not mandatory.
The early christians did it "house to house" "underground".
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Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16
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It is interesting. I would break it down into two parts; first is the underground church part which I can accept at least in part. He proposes to go back to early church teachings as he thinks the later church has gotten to far astray from The Way. The second part which I don't accept much of is the tie back to liberalism (at least not to the point that I've read so far). His break down of conservative vs. liberal is simplistic and narrow minded IMO.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
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“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
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Rather than a book, this is a link to a review of a book. You may want to read the book, which I agree has an unfortunate title. I'm thinking of sending a copy to my brother:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/26/...4LYn2w.twitter
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Just finished the third book in Justin Cronin's The Passage trilogy, City of Mirrors. Very good.
Now reading Daniel Silva's latest Gabriel Allon book, The Black Widow. Silva never disappoints...
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I agree. This one is on its way from Amazon.
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What Color is your God?
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Battles of the Crusades, 1097-1444: From Dorylaeum to Varna Hardcover – 2007
Nothing beats reading about real life, real death and history..
So very necessary to having a clear and informed foundation to understand the darkness and evil in the world today...
Attempting to understand the turmoil/chaos/warfare in the world today without very good historic context to judge with is akin to trying to eat
soup with a fork IMHO.....
WITH A FORK BEING SO MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN A SPOON.--Tyr
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The Black Widow- Daniel Silva
About 2/3 through, and it is really good. And recommended for anyone who wants a fictional(?) look into the inner workings of various spy agencies vs. ISIS.
After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown
“Unfortunately, the truth is now whatever the media say it is”
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