Piece of Crap, Joined at the Hip, bush Attack Dog...

[Pale Rider]

This is the low life, son of a bitch, appointee, joined at the hip, bush globalist, open border, asshole that's been prosecuting border patrol for doing their job!

[loosecannon]

This is the low life, son of a bitch, appointee, joined at the hip, bush globalist, open border, asshole that's been prosecuting border patrol for doing their job!

So does this piece of shit Bush appointee challenge your special favoritism towards Bush policies?

[Pale Rider]

So does this piece of shit Bush appointee challenge your special favoritism towards Bush policies?

Bush doesn't have many policies I do like loose. I can count them on one hand.

[loosecannon]

Bush doesn't have many policies I do like loose. I can count them on one hand.

OK, we're cool.

The border prob comes down to the GOP banking long term on winning Latinos over and the dems banking longterm on maintaining profile with mionorities.

IOW both parties are whoring themselves for a deciding future voting block of future citizens.

Which is pretty damned disgusting when you think about who elected them in the here and now.

[Pale Rider]

OK, we're cool.

The border prob comes down to the GOP banking long term on winning Latinos over and the dems banking longterm on maintaining profile with mionorities.

IOW both parties are whoring themselves for a deciding future voting block of future citizens.

Which is pretty damned disgusting when you think about who elected them in the here and now.

Damn right. Both parties are currently working on a new immigration bill, that public like it or not, comes down to amnesty. All the illegals here right now would get to stay. They're working on this in "secret." No wonder why, when 80 some percent of America will NOT SUPPORT AMNESTY! I swear, I truely feel these politicians are commiting high treason, and should be tried and convicted for it.

And this attack dog judge of bush's that's sending border patrol agents to prison for doing their job should be thrown in prison himself. Filthy cock sucker.

[nevadamedic]

[QUOTE=Pale Rider;57539]This is the low life, son of a bitch, appointee, joined at the hip, bush globalist, open border, asshole that's been prosecuting border patrol for doing their job!

You forgot about the Texas Police officer he just had convicted for trying to stop a van full of Illegals from coming into our country by shooting out the tires, after the drove off on him after he stopped them, coming closing to hitting him and posing a great risk and danger on the roads. This guy should not only be fired but have his license to practice law pulled.

[loosecannon]

Damn right. Both parties are currently working on a new immigration bill, that public like it or not, comes down to amnesty. All the illegals here right now would get to stay. They're working on this in "secret." No wonder why, when 80 some percent of America will NOT SUPPORT AMNESTY!

I have mixed feelings about it Pale, because I don't have a solution to the multi prong prob of immigration.

My early feelings are if we are gonna be a nation state we should do it, and that means sealed borders with controlled entry. 12 million illegals is way over the top. They need to be deported.

But the politicos won't do it. Which is friggin lame as hell.

On the other side we need a much bigger policy than just that much.

But whatever policy we pick we should not break it. I mean what is the point of making the laws if we just don't bother to use them? That is lazy and chickenshit and probably corrupt.

[Pale Rider]

I have mixed feelings about it Pale, because I don't have a solution to the multi prong prob of immigration.

My early feelings are if we are gonna be a nation state we should do it, and that means sealed borders with controlled entry. 12 million illegals is way over the top. They need to be deported.

But the politicos won't do it. Which is friggin lame as hell.

On the other side we need a much bigger policy than just that much.

But whatever policy we pick we should not break it. I mean what is the point of making the laws if we just don't bother to use them? That is lazy and chickenshit and probably corrupt.

I believe that if we dried up the jobs, they wouldn't come here. The BIGGEST part of the solution is going after the people and businesses that hire illegals. Fine them and throw them in jail. Not only will they stop coming once they find out they can't work here, but the ones that are here will go back. How easy is that? And if some liberal city becomes a sanctuary city and says they won't support those laws, cut off their federal money, immediately. See how long they'll stick to that.

[Dilloduck]

I believe that if we dried up the jobs, they wouldn't come here. The BIGGEST part of the solution is going after the people and businesses that hire illegals. Fine them and throw them in jail. Not only will they stop coming once they find out they can't work here, but the ones that are here will go back. How easy is that? And if some liberal city becomes a sanctuary city and says they won't support those laws, cut off their federal money, immediately. See how long they'll stick to that.

Austin is one of those fricken "sanctuary cities" and it's costing us big time. How in the hell can cities get away with protecting people who break federal laws?

[Pale Rider]

Austin is one of those fricken "sanctuary cities" and it's costing us big time. How in the hell can cities get away with protecting people who break federal laws?

That is the million dollar question. And it's also why our own government, at this very moment, has been working on a new immigration bill that will give AMNESTY to millions of illegals, and they're doing it in SECRET! Gee.... I wonder why? Because MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE AGAINST IT!!!!

WHY DON'T THEY PUT THIS ISSUE TO VOTE BY AMERICANS???!!!

I ***HATE*** every one of the politicians that are pulling this off. I think it's the greatest disgrace and act of treason this country has ever witnessed.

If they started impeachment procedings on bush right now, I'd say go for it.

[Kathianne]

Austin is one of those fricken "sanctuary cities" and it's costing us big time. How in the hell can cities get away with protecting people who break federal laws?

Yep, it's like some truly have a death wish:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/steyn/3...teyn13.article

Fortress America's gate is open
(http://www.suntimes.com/news/steyn/3...teyn13.article)

May 13, 2007

MARK STEYN

Most terrorists seem like bumbling losers if they're caught before the act: That's certainly true of the Fort Dix jihadists who took their terrorist training DVD to the local audio store to be copied. It was also true of the Islamists arrested in Toronto last year for plotting to behead the prime minister, one of whose cell members had a bride who wanted him to sign a prenup committing him to jihad. The Heathrow plotters arrested while planning to blow up U.S.-bound airliners included a Muslim convert who'd started out as the son of a British Conservative Party official with a P. G. Wodehouse double-barreled name and a sister who was a Victoria's Secret model and ex-wife of tennis champ Yanick Noah.

But then Mohammed Atta and the 9/11 gang would have seemed pretty funny if you'd run into them in that lap-dance club they went to before the big day where the girls remembered them only as very small tippers. Most terrorists are jokes until the bomb goes off.

So, when we're fortunate enough to catch them in advance, it's worth pausing to consider what they tell us about the broader threat we face. According to genius New York Times headline writers, "Religion Guided Three Held In Fort Dix Plot." You don't say. Any religion in particular?

Well, the trio were Muslims, but Albanian Muslims -- i.e., they weren't Arabs and didn't have names like Mohammed and Abdullah (though their accomplices did). Even if Amer- ica were minded to profile, it's harder to profile against chaps with names like "Shain Duka" (Fort Dix) or "Rich- ard Reid" (the shoebomber) or "Jer- maine Lindsay" (a July 7 Tube bomb- er) or "Muriel Degauque" (a Belgian lady who self-detonated in a suicide attack on U.S. forces in Iraq) or "Jack Roche" (an Australian arrested for plotting to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Canberra).

Second, the young Duka brothers are "radical Muslim" sons in a family of otherwise "moderate Muslim" oldsters. That, too, fits a pattern of de-assimilation, of young Western Muslims far more implacable and hostile than their parents and grandparents. The London bombers were British subjects born and bred, radicalized in the vacuum of contemporary multiculturalism. One of the Toronto plotters had a father-in-law who was the pharmacist at the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry base. The Princess Pats have done sterling work in Afghanistan, and pop supports their mission. But his daughter doesn't, and she named his grandchild after a Chechen terrorist killed by the Russians.

Third, what then radicalized so many Western Muslims? Answer: in many cases, the Balkans. When Yugoslavia collapsed 15 years ago, Jacques Poos told the Americans to butt out: "The hour of Europe has come!" he declared confidently. Poos was the foreign minister of Luxembourg, a country as big as your hot tub, but he chanced to be holding the European Union's rotating "presidency" at the time and, as it happened, the Americans were very happy to butt out. "We don't have a dog in this fight," said then-secretary of state, James Baker.

Well, the hour of Europe came and went, and a couple of hundred thousand corpses later the EU was only too happy for Americans to butt back in again. So NATO bombed Christian Serbs in defense of Albanian Muslims, and a fat lot of good it did if the Duka brothers are any indication.

In theory, Baker was right. But out there in the Balkans, if you're one of the dogs in the fight, great-power evenhandedness can seem pretty one-handed by the time you hear about it. Don't take my word for it. Here's Osama bin Laden: "The British are responsible for destroying the Caliphate system. They are the ones who created the Palestinian problem. They are the ones who created the Kashmiri problem. They are the ones who put the arms embargo on the Muslims of Bosnia so that 2 million Muslims were killed."

Whoa, hold up there: How come a list of imperial interventions wound up with a bit of non-imperial non-intervention? Because, for serious nations, even not taking sides is seen as, in effect, taking sides. What was the single biggest factor in the radicalization of British Muslims? Omar Sheikh, convicted in Karachi for the kidnapping and beheading of Daniel Pearl, is British -- a Westernized non-observant chess-playing pop-listening beer-drinking London School of Economics student, until he was fired up by the massacres of Bosnian Muslims. And, while Europe dithered as the mountain of corpses piled up, Saudi money poured in, transforming the relatively mild Balkan Islam into something far more virulent. Look at the change in Muslim architecture in the region over the last 15 years: They build Wahhabist mosques now. Unlike the State Department complaceniks, the Islamists understand there is no stability.

Tough, you say. So what? Washington still has no dog in these fights. It's time to hunker down in Fortress America. Which brings me to the fourth lesson: What fortress? The three Duka brothers were (if you'll forgive the expression) illegal immigrants. They're not meant to be here. Yet they graduated from a New Jersey high school and they operated two roofing companies and a pizzeria. Think of how often you have to produce your driver's license or Social Security number. But, five years after 9/11, this is still one of the easiest countries in the world in which to establish a functioning but fraudulent identity.

Consider, for example, the post-9/11 ritual of airline security. You have to produce government-issued picture ID to the TSA official. Does that make you feel safer? On that Tuesday morning in September, four of the killers got on board by using picture ID they'd acquired through the "undocumented worker" network in Falls Church, Va. Half the jurisdictions in the United States issue picture ID to people who shouldn't even be in the country, and they issue it as a matter of policy. The Fort Dix boys were pulled over for 19 traffic violations, but because they were in "sanctuary cities," any cop who suspected they were illegals was unable to report them to immigration authorities. Again, as a matter of policy.

On one hand, America creates a vast federal security bureaucracy to prevent another 9/11. On the other hand, American politicians and bureaucrats create a parallel system of education and welfare and health care entitlements, main- taining and expanding a vast network of fraudulent identity that cor- rupts the integrity of almost all state databases. And though it played a part in the killing of 3,000 Americans, leaders of both parties insist nothing can be done to stop it. All we can do is give the Duka brothers "a fast track to citizenship."

The Iranians already are operating in South America's Tri-Border area. Is it the nothing-can-be-done crowd's assumption that the fellows who run armies of the "undocumented" from Mexico into America are just kindhearted human smugglers who'd have nothing to do with jihad even if the price was right? If you don't have borders, you won't have a nation -- and you may find "the jobs Americans won't do" covers a multitude of sins. ©Mark Steyn 2007

[Dilloduck]

That is the million dollar question. And it's also why our own government, at this very moment, has been working on a new immigration bill that will give AMNESTY to millions of illegals, and they're doing it in SECRET! Gee.... I wonder why? Because MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE AGAINST IT!!!!

WHY DON'T THEY PUT THIS ISSUE TO VOTE BY AMERICANS???!!!

I'm afraid it' because we don't count anymore. We really don't.

[Pale Rider]

I'm afraid it' because we don't count anymore. We really don't.

That appears to be true. We work for the government. The government doesn't work for us.

This country needs another revolution.

[Kathianne]

That appears to be true. We work for the government. The government doesn't work for us.

This country needs another revolution.

I'll admit to feeling this way too lately. I've always believed that if 'the people' truly spoke, the politicians would react. The last election seemed to me to be a double whammy to politicos; to the executive branch: Change strategy in Iraq, find a way to fix and set an end game. To the legislative: Make laws and taxes more transparent, end earmarks.

Granted we do have the new strategy in Iraq. Still, the 'end' is not clarified, I DO NOT mean dates, I mean 'what it would look like.'

As for Congress, zero, nada.

[Pale Rider]

I'll admit to feeling this way too lately. I've always believed that if 'the people' truly spoke, the politicians would react. The last election seemed to me to be a double whammy to politicos; to the executive branch: Change strategy in Iraq, find a way to fix and set an end game. To the legislative: Make laws and taxes more transparent, end earmarks.

Granted we do have the new strategy in Iraq. Still, the 'end' is not clarified, I DO NOT mean dates, I mean 'what it would look like.'

As for Congress, zero, nada.

I'm so disgusted with the whole lot, republican and democrat alike, I could spit bullets. The more I see and hear about what they do, the more pissed off I get.

I think I'll write ***MYSELF*** in for president in '08.