Gun nut opens fire in Carson City, Nevada

[LuvRPgrl]

Why are you confused? You agreed with me.

Yea, Im a bit slow sometimes.....I finally figured it out

[LuvRPgrl]

I can defend myself with the handgun that I have.
My question was, why do you need an AK-47? Do you really expect thugs to start roaming your neighborhood with high power weapons?
Now, if you plan to start doing business with organized crime or drug cartels, then perhaps you need one.

You ever been in , around or near where riots are taking place? I would want more than a measly handgun.
Besides, WHAT YOU WANT ISNT WHAT I MIGHT WANT, isnt that what freedom is all about.

This country was founded on the ideal of freedom.
Not fairness doctrine,
not wealth for all
not medical insurance for all
not a chicken in every pot
not the privledge for homos to marry
Not the right to collecting welfare

just FREEDOM

FREEDOM BABY, THATS ALL.

[DragonStryk72]

I can defend myself with the handgun that I have.
My question was, why do you need an AK-47? Do you really expect thugs to start roaming your neighborhood with high power weapons?
Now, if you plan to start doing business with organized crime or drug cartels, then perhaps you need one.

You don't need an ipod, nor do you need an internet connection. Even if your job is web-based, you could go to your local library or starbucks and use it there. Thankfully, our Founders did not found our nation on having to prove why a right was deserved. As I stated above, the very questioning of why someone needs a thing is irrelevent to the discussion.

As has also been pointed out, an AK is a full-auto weapon, which is the objection to it, but the fact is that almost any semi-auto weapon can be altered into a full-auto, making it the equal of the AK. So why bother banning something when the exact same effect can be produced in almost any gun on the market?

People who are determined to kill a lot of people will not ever be stopped by laws, as mass murder is already illegal. taking away guns will only tell them where best place to start is.

[logroller]

Yea, Im a bit slow sometimes.....

Gonna put this quote in my 'to use outside of context' file.

[J.T]

This country was founded on the ideal of freedom.

So long as you were White and had a penis and owned land...

an AK is a full-auto weapon

Walk into a gun store and pick up an AK-47. It will be semi-auto.

almost any semi-auto weapon can be altered into a full-auto

Another anti-gun myth. See the video on 'assault weapons' I posted earlier in this thread.

[logroller]

So long as you were White and had a penis and owned land...


Walk into a gun store and pick up an AK-47. It will be semi-auto.



Another anti-gun myth. See the video on 'assault weapons' I posted earlier in this thread.

He said the "ideal" of freedom, not its actual application. MM is right though, the AK-47 was originally a three position (s, 1, f) automatic rifle.People in america just don't bother to use the proper model designation, preferring instead the generic branding 'AK-47'; abroad it is often referred to as a Kalish I believe-- check wiki. Kinda like one may use the term 'm-16' and ar-15 interchangeably, though the latter is a family of various models; the former was the designated model of the first ar-15 type weapon adopted for service. 'AR-15' is owned by Colt. Making a civilian ar-15 into a fully automatic weapon isn't all that hard, if you have access to a machine shop and fire control parts; not that I've done that and buried it in an undisclosed location, it's a federal crime.

[LuvRPgrl]

Gonna put this quote in my 'to use outside of context' file.

but please, take out the term "sometimes"...

[LuvRPgrl]

So long as you were White and had a penis and owned land....

well, I do qualify, so what the point dipdong?

Walk into a gun store and pick up an AK-47. It will be semi-auto.



Another anti-gun myth. See the video on 'assault weapons' I posted earlier in this thread.

You're calling Loggingman anti gun????

[J.T]

the AK-47 was originally a three position (s, 1, f) automatic rifle.

And? An AK-47 you buy in a gun shop will be semi-auto

People in America just don't bother to use the proper model designation, preferring instead the generic branding 'AK-47'

Because they're AK-47s. There are different variations of the AK-47 made by different manufacturers, but that doesn't make them not AK-47s and more than the fact that there's more than one F-150 (different years have their differences) makes your F-150 not an F-150.

[logroller]

And? An AK-47 you buy in a gun shop will be semi-auto
Because they're AK-47s. There are different variations of the AK-47 made by different manufacturers, but that doesn't make them not AK-47s and more than the fact that there's more than one F-150 (different years have their differences) makes your F-150 not an F-150.

Then it's an AK-type, influenced by the design, but not an AK-47. and the f-150 analogy is weak; better one be if someone ordered a CocaCola, original formula it wouldn't have cocaine in it. Here's a history from the official site; clearly describing an AK-47 as a (s,f,1) sub-machine gun; but it's not really worth arguing about; people are gonna call soda coke and AK-type rifles AK-47s regardless

[LuvRPgrl]

And? An AK-47 you buy in a gun shop will be semi-auto
Because they're AK-47s. There are different variations of the AK-47 made by different manufacturers, but that doesn't make them not AK-47s and more than the fact that there's more than one F-150 (different years have their differences) makes your F-150 not an F-150.

Yes, but those variations have their own designation, a very specific one. Like AK-64, for example. You would, or should never call an AK-64 an AK-47, because it isnt. That is simply incorrect.

Kinda like Ford has the F series trucks, but you wouldnt call the f150 an F350.

[J.T]

official site

'official'? How is it 'official'? is it run by Kalashnikov himself?

And as I pointed out some time ago, full-auto weapons are already easily restricted in the US, which means that the only AKs were discussing in this thread (recall it's about KRB wanting to ban those AKs you can walk into a gun store and buy without any special license) are semi-auto.

Luv, wtf is an ak-64? Did you mean an Ak-74?

[logroller]

'official'? How is it 'official'? is it run by Kalashnikov himself?

Now you're just arguing for arguments sake? Moot point, let's move on.

[J.T]

You link some obscure site and claim it's 'official' and therefore authoritative. Now you admit you were talking out of your neck?

[ConHog]

Now you're just arguing for arguments sake? Moot point, let's move on.

I have that idiot on ignore and would appreciate if you wouldn't quote his every post effectively negating my ignore .

Thanks.