Dem Tells Radio Host You Dont Deserve To Keep All The Money You Earn

[J.T]

I insteadof creating a decent paying job

people don't create jobs because they hanve money and say 'hey, I have money, let's pay someone to do something.'
http://blog.cagle.com/2011/06/the-ri...2%80%93-we-do/

http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-compa...210015904.html

they create jobs because demand necessitates it in order to capitalize upon that demand.

This is business 101. Maybe you should learn how capitalism works before coming back.

[LuvRPgrl]

If he's rich and corrupt enough, yes. Or have you not been paying attention during the last two administrations?

Who said anything about the Democrats?
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...hest-are-Democ

just type my name into a search engine with each of your scripted lines

You dodged the one question I specifically asked you to answer. Why is it fair for me to pay for others college educations when I couldnt afford one for myself or my kids? Answer the question please.

[J.T]

You dodged the one question I specifically asked you to answer. Why is it fair for me to pay for others college educations when I couldnt afford one for myself or my kids? Answer the question please.

I would, but it's not even a valid question. Weren't you one of the idiots screaming about how ~1/2 of Americans (thereby including those you're now pretending to care about) don't pay federal taxes (and therefore don't pay for Pel Grants and other aid acquired via FAFSA and the federal government)?

Interesting to see you now arguing in favour of that progressive taxation.

[LuvRPgrl]

people don't create jobs because they hanve money and say 'hey, I have money, let's pay someone to do something.'.

Actually, thats exactly what happens, I DO IT ALL THE TIME.



http://blog.cagle.com/2011/06/the-ri...-jobs-–-we-do/

http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-compa...210015904.html

they create jobs because demand necessitates it in order to capitalize upon that demand..

THAT is one way, but not the only. Ever hear of venture capital? Was the internet a neccisity in 1985? Do you know how many people the internet employ

This is business 101. Maybe you should learn how capitalism works before coming back.

Thats funny, I AM CAPITALISM. I borrowed against my house, built a 2500 sq footer worth over a mil, & we hired alot of people, because we had the capital to do it.
Now we are getting set to build a four unit apt building and a 2000 sq ft house, and we will be hiring unemployed people.

[LuvRPgrl]

I would, but it's not even a valid question. Weren't you one of the idiots screaming about how ~1/2 of Americans (thereby including those you're now pretending to care about) don't pay federal taxes (and therefore don't pay for Pel Grants and other aid acquired via FAFSA and the federal government)?.

hahhahahhaha, well..NO

Interesting to see you now arguing in favour of that progressive taxation.

see answer above.

You getting alzheimers, no worry, obamacare will help you.eal
You neednt accuse me of pretending to care for the poor, I work with them every day. And I dont mean just giving money, I mean going into a shit stinky guys apt and holding him, taking turns with my buddy, cuz he shaking so bad he's about to create an earthquake, and wants nothing more than a drink. Sometimes we get vomitted on. Sometimes we have to fend off a punch or two. Sometimes they even sue us.

so again you dodged the question.


If you want to go toe to toe, at least know what I said and didnt say.

[J.T]

Ever hear of venture capital?

Again, the motivation if profit, not some charitable 'spread the wealth around' socialist desire on the part of the wealthy to pass out money. A sound investment is one made in a company that succeeds- and the company can only succeed if there is a market demand for the goods or services offered.

Now we are getting set to build a four unit apt building and a 2000 sq ft house, and we will be hiring unemployed people.

Are you making these jobs because you have money and want to pass it out? If so, you'd just give it away on the street corner. The motivation is profit (surplus value or capital).

[fj1200]

You realize you're responding to jimnyc's argument, right?

Nope. Yours; yet another one of your contradictions.

Right, you can call the capital gains tax a 'national sustainability contribution' too if you want, but it's still a tax.

Maybe we should call it a 'fee'?

It's insurance. Ask FDR.

Also, will you people please make up your minds? Half the time you people say I'm a communist (which would mean I seek the abolition of the nation-state and pursue a stateless and classless society) and the other half of the time you people claim I'm a statist (which would make one wonder why I'm always arguing against the USA PATRIOT act, the massive military, the worship of COTUS and SCTOUS, and federalism).

You're a statist as you've demonstrated many times, you want the state to validate your priorities.

[J.T]

Nope.

I made no arguments in the post you quoted, genius. Jim's the one who said you don't have a right to all the money you earn.

It's insurance. Ask FDR.

No, it's not. Ask the courts. That's why one doesn't have a right to benefits and congress can deny anyone or everyone SS benefits at any time. For all the rhetoric and 'insurance' sales pitch, they went out of their way to make sure that, legally, it was no such thing. This because of past rulings such as that on the RRA.

[jimnyc]

I made no arguments in the post you quoted, genius. Jim's the one who said you don't have a right to all the money you earn.

Quote where I stated as much. I think people are entitled to every last cent they earn, but I also understand as a country we all need to chip in a bit for certain things. Stop misquoting me, Mr. Manson!

[fj1200]

I made no arguments in the post you quoted, genius. Jim's the one who said you don't have a right to all the money you earn.

I know your position and I know your contradicitons.

No, it's not. Ask the courts. That's why one doesn't have a right to benefits and congress can deny anyone or everyone SS benefits at any time. For all the rhetoric and 'insurance' sales pitch, they went out of their way to make sure that, legally, it was no such thing. This because of past rulings such as that on the RRA.

I know. You're avoiding the wealth stealing effects of SS and that it's not supposed to be a tax, it's supposed to be a contribution.

[LuvRPgrl]

Again, the motivation if profit, not some charitable 'spread the wealth around' socialist desire on the part of the wealthy to pass out money. A sound investment is one made in a company that succeeds- and the company can only succeed if there is a market demand for the goods or services offered.

Are you making these jobs because you have money and want to pass it out? If so, you'd just give it away on the street corner. The motivation is profit (surplus value or capital).

apparently you cant read.
Foundations are created by rich people, so yea, they make profits and give some to charity

Your last statement is so profusely stupid, if I even tried to answere it, I would get quarantined for possibility of being infected with idiotism

Try responding to what I actually post.
Replying to your own comments doesnt win you any debates.

You know, some people can multi task. It is possible that investments can be into companies that are meeting increasing demands, computers, and create something that doesnt exist, and create the market and demand. Thats what INVENTIONS are all about.

Now, really try hard to respond to what I or FJ are posting, and not just some sarcastic sly remark cuz you got nothing, zero, zilch, nada.

[J.T]

Quote where I stated as much.

Then you go back to those of us who DO believe taxes should go to pay for these things

Where do taxes come from?

I think people are entitled to every last cent they earn, but I also understand as a country we all need to chip in a bit for certain things.

So taxes should be voluntary?

it's not supposed to be a tax, it's supposed to be a contribution.

And the concealment tax is a 'processing fee'

[fj1200]

And the concealment tax is a 'processing fee'

Your tangent is stupid as per usual.

[jimnyc]

Where do taxes come from?

Hard working people, mostly. How come you don't ask me where taxes DON'T come from? Illegals, welfare recipients, people who are unemployed forever - in other words, mostly Dem supporters who vote Dem to continue the free ride.

So taxes should be voluntary?

No, IF you REALLY read my posts you would know that I support an equal tax to all taxpayers. It can't be voluntary or we would never see another cent from the few Dems who do pay taxes.

[ConHog]

I wish yall would quit fucking this thread up by quoting and responding to that baboon JT as if he were really here for an honest debate.