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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    First off you are probably dead wrong. So why don't you provide some credible documentation.



    OK, I will I will ask gay folks whether they became gay by choice or because of mysterious force that defied science and logic.

    So OCA are you gay by choice?

    BTW those weren't incessant ramblings and condescension.

    You were logically lost in space. Your reasoning, as expressed, was completely irrational. NOt at all logical, just idiotbabble.

    Provide irrefutable proof for your argument. Or a reasonable argument of opinion.

    Did you choose to become gay OCA?
    You know I tend to agree with you that OCA is over the top on this subject, but calling him a homosexual was out of line. I think anyone who has ever ready any comment he has made can saftly say that he is definatly not gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    How about irrefutable evidence that it's a choice? How about a link to any scientific study that concludes it's a choice? Is there even one? You'd think with all of the energy and money expended by the thumpers, that they'd have found the proof of "choice". I guess since they haven't found it, it doesn't exist.

    But that's just not honest...It's up to the claimant to prove their claim. Homosexuals behave a certain way. They 'say' their BEHAVIOUR is FORCED upon them. Just doesn't pass muster. It's REALLY as simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Is it IRONY that people who feel ANY NEGATIVE TALK whatSOEVER against 'homosexuality' is 'bigotry' or 'hatred', seem to slander, cuss, curse and get ALL kinds of abusive against Christianity?
    It's almost a given that you won't see one without the other. And it all adds up to zero credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    But that's just not honest...It's up to the claimant to prove their claim. Homosexuals behave a certain way. They 'say' their BEHAVIOUR is FORCED upon them. Just doesn't pass muster. It's REALLY as simple as that.
    Exactly, i'm not the one looking to change laws and the fabric of society to accomodate a proven DANGEROUS BEHAVIORAL LIFESTYLE CHOICE.

    Anyway the asking me to prove choice is just a diversion tactic used to throw people off the trail that leads to them not having a shred of evidence on queerness by birth.

    Any survey biology course proves choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    It's almost a given that you won't see one without the other. And it all adds up to zero credibility.
    100% correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    OK, I will I will ask gay folks whether they became gay by choice or because of mysterious force that defied science and logic.

    So OCA are you gay by choice?...
    Did you choose to become gay OCA?
    Amazing how libs always use gay as an insult. If its normal and natural and all that, then why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    How about irrefuteable evidence that it's a choice? How about a link to any scientific study that concludes it's a choice? Is there even one? You'd think with all of the energy and money expended by the thumpers, that they'd have found the proof of "choice". I guess since they haven't found it, it doesn't exist.
    I see a pattern here with you Missleman: you never provide any proof, instead require the other side to provide it for you. Are your arguments so weak that there is no proof?

    And the proof that queerness is a choice is the fact that billions of dollars/ countless hours have been spent to disprove that fact with zero results.

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    Know what's funny? 34 posts to this thread alone, and there's not a single link, or shred of "proof" posted to prove either side. What does THAT tell you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    But that's just not honest...It's up to the claimant to prove their claim. Homosexuals behave a certain way. They 'say' their BEHAVIOUR is FORCED upon them. Just doesn't pass muster. It's REALLY as simple as that.
    Well OCA, the claimant, CLAIMS that "queerness is a choice". All I'm asking is for even a shred of scientific evidence that bolsters his CLAIM. Or are you suggesting that the standard of proof shouldn't be the same for BOTH sides? Homosexuality is about the inclination, not the behavior. Without the inclination, the behavior wouldn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    I see a pattern here with you Missleman: you never provide any proof, instead require the other side to provide it for you. Are your arguments so weak that there is no proof?
    You are incapable of recognizing proof.

    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    And the proof that queerness is a choice is the fact that billions of dollars/ countless hours have been spent to disprove that fact with zero results.
    Nice CLAIM...how about backing it up with a LINK or two!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Well OCA, the claimant, CLAIMS that "queerness is a choice". All I'm asking is for even a shred of scientific evidence that bolsters his CLAIM. Or are you suggesting that the standard of proof shouldn't be the same for BOTH sides? Homosexuality is about the inclination, not the behavior. Without the inclination, the behavior wouldn't exist.
    does someone choose to have gay sex........

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    does someone choose to have gay sex........
    In the same manner that you or I choose to have straight sex, yes. That doesn't make the orientation a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Amazing how libs always use gay as an insult. If its normal and natural and all that, then why?
    because OCA has a fixation on gayness. Obviously that fixation is a choice.

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    The only thing I know for sure is that I was born heterosexual, I didn't choose to be, I just am, I therefore assume homosexuals are born homosexuals and like me have never had to make a conscious decision regarding their their sexual preferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shattered View Post
    Know what's funny? 34 posts to this thread alone, and there's not a single link, or shred of "proof" posted to prove either side. What does THAT tell you?
    It tells me that you need to STOP with the sexual innuendos. NOW.

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