Fat guy with man boobs kills 8 in So Cal

[gabosaurus]

http://www.ocregister.com/news/busin...cal-beach.html


I've met this guy before. I've been to this hair salon. My husband and I know the owner. This is beyond fucked up.
Another notch for us gun control people, though. In Obama's second term, it is going to go down. You screwed up gun nuts are going to take it up the butt. Or perhaps one of your own family will need to buy it first. That would be entertaining, right?

[avatar4321]

heard about that. Any idea why he did it?

Makes me worried about my wife working at a hair salon now. I know its not likely but still not something i want to be thinking about.

[logroller]

http://www.ocregister.com/news/busin...cal-beach.html


I've met this guy before. I've been to this hair salon. My husband and I know the owner. This is beyond fucked up.
Another notch for us gun control people, though. In Obama's second term, it is going to go down. You screwed up gun nuts are going to take it up the butt. Or perhaps one of your own family will need to buy it first. That would be entertaining, right?

Way to find the silver lining...never mind the tragedy. How about a probate court system that requires a man, known as a "devoted father", to get tied up in legal hassles since 2007; no doubt enduring untold amounts of fees to have shared custody of his son. Perhaps you should look at what drives such a man to commit such crimes, before looking at this as an opportunity to expand the very system which inspires people to commit such acts.

And having people 'take it up the butt'--- is that supposed to be funny-- violating personal rights is a joke to you. That's disgusting gabs. Opining such does little to assuage the anger of 'gun nuts'-- quite the opposite, it inspires them; perhaps creating more of them; that is a form of entertainment to you? You'll understand why i don't rush to buy tickets to such an affair.

[gabosaurus]

What happened to the edit function? Did someone remove it? How can I add new information without the edit function? Well fuck it then. Stupid jackasses.

[logroller]

Stupid jackasses.

That's the 'new information' you tried to add?

[red states rule]

That's the 'new information' you tried to add?

Gabby was going to "inform" us of that the few elected R's in the CA State House and Senate blocked another "common sense" gun law that would have made it illegal for a fat guy with man boobs to buy a gun

[fj1200]

Way to find the silver lining...never mind the tragedy.

Seems gab is as nutty as anyone when it comes to guns.

[Thunderknuckles]

Gabby's ridiculous anti-gun rant aside:
I am puzzled by the motivation in this tragedy. We have a guy who goes into a hair salon where his ex-wife works and starts killing not only everyone inside, but he also shoots another man outside in the parking lot. All we know so far is that the guy has been in a nasty custody battle with the ex-wife. Usually a guy in his state will go straight for the ex-wife but why the indiscriminate killing of others who are also probably parents themselves? Something isn't adding up yet for me.

[logroller]

Gabby's ridiculous anti-gun rant aside:
I am puzzled by the motivation in this tragedy. We have a guy who goes into a hair salon where his ex-wife works and starts killing not only everyone inside, but he also shoots another man outside in the parking lot. All we know so far is that the guy has been in a nasty custody battle with the ex-wife. Usually a guy in his state will go straight for the ex-wife but why the indiscriminate killing of others who are also probably parents themselves? Something isn't adding up yet for me.

Maybe its Operation Fat and Flabby.

Seriously though, I can't really imagine what goes through someone's mind during a murderous rampage-- one has most likely rejected common sense at that point. More surprising to me is he was arrested without incident.

A lot of what's said is what's not said; you know what i mean-- no comment on type or number of weapons, so I'm guessing he didn't use an assault rifle(which CA has a ban against). The gun-control peeps hate to admit their laws don't actually prevent gun crimes from being committed-- preferring, rather, to say more gun control is therefore necessary. CA has a high-cap mag ban too. Just waiting to see if they hail this as a 'success', as he stopped, I'm guessing, when his mag well ran dry.

As for others killed, I would imagine he assimilated the support she received, from coworkers, her boss, even clients, into a conspiracy against him. They mentioned it being a small community, maybe he knew the person outside.

[ConHog]

http://www.ocregister.com/news/busin...cal-beach.html


I've met this guy before. I've been to this hair salon. My husband and I know the owner. This is beyond fucked up.
Another notch for us gun control people, though. In Obama's second term, it is going to go down. You screwed up gun nuts are going to take it up the butt. Or perhaps one of your own family will need to buy it first. That would be entertaining, right?

Yep yep, no doubt if only the 2nd Amendment were repealed. I'm sure that people would stop losing their minds and killing other people.

Or here's an idea , shut up you dumb bitch.

[Little-Acorn]

Usually a guy in his state will go straight for the ex-wife but why the indiscriminate killing of others who are also probably parents themselves? Something isn't adding up yet for me.

Occasionally you find someone who simply has a screw loose somewhere. He can live a fairly normal life for years, until something sets him off. Then the crazy insane behavior starts.

Silly part is when people gather afterward and start looking at the thing that set him off, as though that had anything to do with him having a screw loose in the first place. And they start wondering if, had that thing that set him off been banned, could the crime have been prevented.

It's a lot like the dopes who think, if we treat militant Islamic radical murderers nicely, they'll stop being murderers.

NEWS FLASH.... the way we treat them, has nothing to do with how they treat us. If we eliminate today's reason for them to start shooting, they'll just find some other excuse tomorrow, nor mext month, and do it anyway.

Same deal with this hair-salon shooter. He shot nine people, instead of just his ex-wife, because he was CRAZY. There is no more reason than that. Sure, maybe something about his rough marital situation may have set him off. But if it hadn't, maybe next week or next year he'd get a speeding ticket, and THEN go home, load up his guns, and head to the salon, or to a grocery store, or someplace else, and kill a bunch of innocent people anyway.

It's not the marital situation (or the speeding ticket or whatever) that made him kill eight people. It was being BAT-SHIT CRAZY that made him kill eight people.

Was there anything we could have done to prevent it?

No.

Most people who have marital situations as rough (or rougher) than his, don't kill eight people. But an occasional person is BAT-SHIT CRAZY, and when triggered, he does. And he often looks and acts fairly normal before then.

No, there's nothing we can do beforehand.

Anybody disagree?

[Thunderknuckles]

I'm not sold on him being crazy just yet. I think there is more to it than just that. I could be wrong. We shall see what the investigation uncovers.

[Little-Acorn]

I'm not sold on him being crazy just yet. I think there is more to it than just that. I could be wrong. We shall see what the investigation uncovers.

As I said, most people who have rough marital situation, don't kill seven or eight innocent people. In a really rough situation, someone might kill the ex-spouse. I'm not justifying that, of course, it's still premeditated murder, one of the most horrible of crimes, and deserves the harshest penalty. My point is, though, that person could do that without being completely, permanently crazy. The extreme emotional stress that sometimes hits us, could possibly account for it, horribly wrong though it is.

But then killing everybody else in the room, simply who happened to be standing around? I cannot think of ANY reason for that, besides being BAT-SHIT CRAZY. The emotional stress of the moment, doesn't NEARLY cover it.

If you can come up with any other explanation for deliberately and methodically killing everybody who happened to be there, I'd like to hear it.

[Thunderknuckles]

Admittedly, I don't have another explanation. I'm running on intuition is all. Something just seems off to me about him shooting up the joint cause he was bat-shit crazy in this case. You could very well be 100% correct however.

[revelarts]

If someone had had a gun in the shop there may have been fewer innocents injuried.
All due respect to the victims, and the shooters family. The Kid will have terrible memories of Dad now.
but , forgive me beforehand for this one, A gun wielding thief or angry person is not completely unstoppable even for those unarmed.

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