JP Cusick and Child Support

[LuvRPgrl]

You're goddamned right it does.


And that doesn't even address the ignorant lies you are telling in this thread. County employees have ZILCH to do with child support.

Thanks for the premature judgement.
You are talking out your ass.

In 1985 , ex files for divorce and gets a $400 a month CS order.
A year later, she has moved to another county, but takes me back to court in the original county and has it raised to $650.
I send a ck for $650, the county refuses it, saying I only owe $410. I send anther check for $650 with a note telling them it has been raised.
They refuse it saying they need to see the order.
I send another $650 the next month, with a copy of the order.
They refuse it saying they need to receive it from the county.
A year goes by and I am unable to get county A to send county B a copy of the order.
I pay $2000 (1985 dollars) to an attorney so I can figure out how to pay the CS.
In the meantime, mom moves to another state.
The judges only ruling was the travel expenses be shared 50/50.
My attorney tells me to send county B a check for $410 and the balance to the mother until they can get it straightened out.
I do so, and deduct 1/2 the travel expenses from the ck I send her.
Years later, son turns 18, county still sends bill. I send them a letter telling them the order is only until he turns 18.
They say they need to see the order.
Again I send them a copy.
They send me a notice that I have only been paying $410 a month all these years, and I was suppose to be paying $650, so now I owe them $37,000.
I send them a letter telling them I paid it directly to her.
They say I have to prove I paid her.
For variouis reasons out of my control, I cant.

They confiscate my license, Im a self employed landscaper, good luck working like that
They confiscate my passport.
They intercept any tax returns me or my wife get whether state, county, felderal or anything.
I dont even know they took my license away and I get pulled over for a fictiscous tail light being out.
They say the car I was driving, which I had just bought, was registered to a sex offender in Riverside, it wasnt, I bought it from a business.
They send me to prison for a year, and confiscate my car, which I had just paid for.
I am still making monthly payments on the fine, for driving without a suspended license, which is more of a crime than not having one at all.

So now mr fuckhead, what do I do?

And, I get a bill from the COUNTY, it says it right on the invoice, you want me to send you a copy of it, or are you only willing to accept one directly from the county.

This whole thing has alot of other twists and turns that are bizarre and cause me all kinds of problems, but it would be a long post.
VIVA LA CHILD SUPPORT.

NOT TO MENTION THE COUNTY REFUSED TO ENFORCE THE VISISTATION THAT THE COURT ORDERED FOR ME.

Now, bring that skinny 6-1 frame over to SD and we will see how you can ATTEMPT to kick my a................
But let me warn you, Ive taken down guys bigger than you who thought it was allright to beat up on a woman.
I have a lifetime of training, great instructors, a lifetime of real world street experience, AND A TON OF FURY.
Not to mention, you aint bigger than me, every fight I have ever been in I was scared, so you cant intimidate me, you cant use a gun like when you were an MP, and you will have to ATTEMPT to throw the first blow, I NEVER start a fight.

[JP Cusick]

Yes so immature that I raised my son without any support from his mother AND took on the responsibility of raising another young man when both his parents flaked out oh him. You meanwhile ran out on your own children and somehow think you did the right thing.

Excuse me for becoming emotional when I hear of children who have been NEGLECTED by their so called father.

Since you did do such noble things then you have every right to be proud of your actions.

I do NOT say that I did right for my son as I confess that I failed him miserably and I live every day with my regrets and with the results.

My only point is that the Child Support and Custody laws are evil, and those evil laws do need to be fought and stopped.

[Gunny]

Since you did do such noble things then you have every right to be proud of your actions.

I do NOT say that I did right for my son as I confess that I failed him miserably and I live every day with my regrets and with the results.

My only point is that the Child Support and Custody laws are evil, and those evil laws do need to be fought and stopped.

You sound much as a cat chasing its tail looks.

Not to mention your cherrypicking. No response to MY post? Once again, it isn't the laws that are the problems. Try reading them. Pretty benign.

The problem is with those empowered to enforce the laws and the inconsistencies from one agency to the next, one judge to the next.

[jimnyc]

You sound much as a cat chasing its tail looks.

Not to mention your cherrypicking. No response to MY post? Once again, it isn't the laws that are the problems. Try reading them. Pretty benign.

The problem is with those empowered to enforce the laws and the inconsistencies from one agency to the next, one judge to the next.

The agencies can certainly use a bit of wrangling to fit modern needs and handle outstanding issues much faster.

But the BIGGEST problem with child support? The "fathers" who run out on their family and refuse to support a human being they brought into this world. There's lots of room for improvement on many avenues, but not a single reason for a father not to help at all.

Complain about how much, pay less and get in trouble, and I can sort of see your side. Think the amount is unfair because of custody agreement, talk to her/him and pay less for all I care. Unemployed or have a valid reason why you can't pay an amount or pay at all? Absolutely, no reason why you should be forced into the streets. But to walk away and not pay, or dodge the responsibility, go awol, not pay a dime, become a "dead beat dad" in the eyes of the law. Those people are the biggest problem, IMO.

[Abbey Marie]

Does the fact that the ex is living with her new boyfriend make it galling to pay support? Do you wonder how much of that money is going for fun times for her and the new lover? I must claim very little knowledge on the subject, so these are legit questions.

It would be nice if dads could pay the money into an account that can only be spent on food and kids' clothing, etc. Like a very limited trust where the trustees include an objective third party. Is that ever done? Or does the custodial parent have free rein to spend as they wish?

[Gunny]

The agencies can certainly use a bit of wrangling to fit modern needs and handle outstanding issues much faster.

But the BIGGEST problem with child support? The "fathers" who run out on their family and refuse to support a human being they brought into this world. There's lots of room for improvement on many avenues, but not a single reason for a father not to help at all.

Complain about how much, pay less and get in trouble, and I can sort of see your side. Think the amount is unfair because of custody agreement, talk to her/him and pay less for all I care. Unemployed or have a valid reason why you can't pay an amount or pay at all? Absolutely, no reason why you should be forced into the streets. But to walk away and not pay, or dodge the responsibility, go awol, not pay a dime, become a "dead beat dad" in the eyes of the law. Those people are the biggest problem, IMO.

I agree. There is no excuse for fathers running out on their children. Now I will pose this question; which, crosses many arguments.

If a woman wants an abortion, the man has no say. Her choice. What if the father wants to keep the child? AND she STILL has the abortion? Her choice. He has no say.

Put it in reverse. He's willing to pay for the abortion but she wants the kid. Why shouldn't he be allowed to be absolved of all legal responsibility? After all, it's still HER choice. He has no say. A lot of "deadbeat dads" are victims of circumstance and a law that caters solely to the woman because chicks with dicks have found a home with the left and get their agenda pushed.

I'm not absolving the man of his responsibility. However, I refuse to absolve the woman who spread her legs either. A "deadbeat dad" to me is a father of children he had in good faith during an alleged good relationship and ran out on. They have no excuse.

It STILL all boils down to the unequal application of law, and/or one-sided laws. The whole Femi-Nazi agenda is bullshit and does nothing but victimize and emasculate the man.

[LuvRPgrl]

why he thinks it's the worst thing in the world. This is a man running for "actual office", and apparently doesn't believe parents should be financially responsible for their kids...

Please dont confuse" shouldnt be responsable for", and "the current child support system sucks"

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My ONLY issue, ever, is WAY off topic - and that it irritates me that a man MUST pay CS even if he didn't want a kid.... You know, the whole abortion / have child and man having little input....

Yep, I agreee totally
a few things about that. It starts with, if a man doesnt want to pay child support, dont get the woman pregnant, its his best and only sure defense.
...Although I oppose abortion, it is a reality of our society. If woman wants abortion, man should be given choice of raising the kid without anything from the woman.
If man wants abortion, but woman keeps the kid, man should be exempt form CS and visitation. If the woman doesnt want to raise a kid without financial support, again, dont get pregnant.

If married, who ever files for divorce loses physical custody, primary, unless both want the divorce, or the Plaintiff (the one filing) can show an extremely good reason for divorcing, and not just irreconcilable differences (an absolutely destructive force on our society)

[ConHog]

Edited by Abbey

Oh, but he said his ex had plenty of money and so could afford to raise the kids without his help..

Truth be told I bet if we found his ex wife and children and asked them about him they would each and everyone tell us that they don't want him OR his money involved in their lives. He came across as a real prick.

[Kathianne]

Oh, but he said his ex had plenty of money and so could afford to raise the kids without his help..

Truth be told I bet if we found his ex wife and children and asked them about him they would each and everyone tell us that they don't want him OR his money involved in their lives. He came across as a real prick.

His ex wife died, leaving their son with her husband, the boy's step father. When good ole' JP showed up, found he'd have to pay the support to the step father. He really didn't like that.

Now I'm uncertain what happened, whether the court gave any visitation or not; my guess is his lack of remorse regarding defacing public property may have brought some question to the court's mind regarding his mental stability.

[Jess]

Oh, but he said his ex had plenty of money and so could afford to raise the kids without his help..

Truth be told I bet if we found his ex wife and children and asked them about him they would each and everyone tell us that they don't want him OR his money involved in their lives. He came across as a real prick.

Around here, the court doesn't care whether the custodial parent can raise the kids without the noncustodial parent's help or not.

The noncustodial parent has a responsibility to do their share in providing for and raising the children and that is based on their income for the most part. That is what resources the children would have access to had the couple not split.

[ConHog]

Around here, the court doesn't care whether the custodial parent can raise the kids without the noncustodial parent's help or not.

The noncustodial parent has a responsibility to do their share in providing for and raising the children and that is based on their income for the most part. That is what resources the children would have access to had the couple not split.

That's federal law. Now each state IS left to their own devices to figure out how much each parent should pay. But FEDERAL law is that each parent is financially responsible for helping raise their children regardless of the financial situation of the other parent.

[LuvRPgrl]

That's federal law. Now each state IS left to their own devices to figure out how much each parent should pay. But FEDERAL law is that each parent is financially responsible for helping raise their children regardless of the financial situation of the other parent.

if non custodial is unemployed, they still have to pay?

care to cite the law?

[ConHog]

if non custodial is unemployed, they still have to pay?

care to cite the law?

If non custodial is unemployed the child support obligation doesn't go away, it is merely added to the ledger until some point where it can be collected.

[LuvRPgrl]

That's federal law. Now each state IS left to their own devices to figure out how much each should pay. But FEDERAL law is that each parent is financially responsible for helping raise their children regardless of the financial situation of the other parent.

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Ok, what you said above is all inclusive.At all times, under all circumstances.


If one of them is unemployed, and they go back to court to have the support amended, do they have to pay any support at all if they do in fact have any income whatsoever.

still waiting on the federal citation

[ConHog]

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Ok, what you said above is all inclusive.At all times, under all circumstances.


If one of them is unemployed, and they go back to court to have the support amended, do they have to pay any support at all if they do in fact have any income whatsoever.

still waiting on the federal citation

Read what you just wrote and see how that differs from what I wrote. The above post of yours was the first mention of going back to court. I was very clear, if a parent becomes unemployed they CAN go back to family court and get their child support reduced. To be honest I don't know if it would be stopped completely if a person had no income. I doubt it.

However, a person can't just say "fuck it, I aint gotta job, I aint paying" and stop paying. The debt will simply accrue. And that is how you first made it sound you were going about things. You said NOTHING about getting an adjustment from the courts.