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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Nice. I'm perfectly willing to debate this so-called credible evidence you keep lauding.
    If I show you evidence - you'll debate the merits of the points?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    There is TONS....Literally TONS of information and data pointing to God. What's Keeping you from SEEING God, however, is your own stubbornness.
    It's Thea, it's all pointing to Thea. Thea is the intelligent designer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    It's Thea, it's all pointing to Thea. Thea is the intelligent designer.

    Who's Thea?


    Speaking of global warming and polution, I ate at Tim's today, NO coffee though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Said1 View Post
    Who's Thea?


    Speaking of global warming and polution, I ate at Tim's today, NO coffee though.

    To an agnostic there is no Thea.

    And to an informed observer there is no Thea.

    Man made God in his own image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    The only thing you can prove is that we can't prove how life began. To me, this doesn't automatically point to the hand of god. To me, it says we don't yet know how life began.

    *don't know the answer--must've been god*

    Since I've never seen anything ever in my entire life that would point towards the existence of a god, logic in fact does NOT point to I.D. Since every other thing that happens in the universe is a product of natural forces, logic points toward natural forces also being behind the presence of life here on earth.

    Since there is not a single letter of scientific theory that includes a god or some other miraculous factor, science also does NOT point to I.D.

    And finally, since every biological process we currently know about uses absolutely zero point zero religious theory and has nothing to do with god, magic or any other paranormal forces, it also does NOT point to I.D.
    Have you ever seen DNA, Pluto, Black Holes, an atom, an idea, thought, Hillary's intelligence, Bill's Morality, oil reserves....etc.? How about air, ever seen air? Oxygen, have you seen Oxygen? Why would you believe any of these things exist, especially Hillary's intelligence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Said1 View Post
    Who's Thea?


    Speaking of global warming and polution, I ate at Tim's today, NO coffee though.

    Something with maple syrup I hope

    Thea is the intelligent designer who put all this together. Everything we see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    If we all evolved from "pond scum" billions of years ago and have no reason for being here outside of some HUGE "accident" then why do you give a crap if "Mother Nature" decides to ward us off like the parasites we are (according to many of the far left) and rid the human race from this planet?

    I mean, why would it matter to you at all if in 100 years there is no more life on this planet? Wouldn't that be, after all, the greatest form of "Survival of the fittest"? e.g. "Just Mother Nature doing some house cleaning"...
    Actually, that's a very good point (for all of us to ponder)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Dude - Science POINTS to God. You choose to believe the least-likely explanation of things.

    [edit] The irony of your statement above is this: You believe things 'just sorta happened'...THAT is Magic. I believe Things were created with a Purpose, by design - no magic required.
    kindly show me where science "POINTS" to God. I have never seen the slighted inclination in that direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Because all credible evidence supports the idea of Intelligent Design. (shrug)
    Where??? What??? How??? kindly show me the slightest example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    To an agnostic there is no Thea.

    And to an informed observer there is no Thea.

    Man made God in his own image.
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    And ain't THAT the truth? (not really a question, just a retorical statement.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    If we all evolved from "pond scum" billions of years ago and have no reason for being here outside of some HUGE "accident" then why do you give a crap if "Mother Nature" decides to ward us off like the parasites we are (according to many of the far left) and rid the human race from this planet?
    I give a crap because I like being here.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    I mean, why would it matter to you at all if in 100 years there is no more life on this planet? Wouldn't that be, after all, the greatest form of "Survival of the fittest"? e.g. "Just Mother Nature doing some house cleaning"...
    If in 100 years I am dead, then the state of the planet will not be relevent to me--the concept of relevency wouldn't even apply; that's part of what being dead entails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    If we all evolved from "pond scum" billions of years ago and have no reason for being here outside of some HUGE "accident" then why do you give a crap if "Mother Nature" decides to ward us off like the parasites we are (according to many of the far left) and rid the human race from this planet?

    I mean, why would it matter to you at all if in 100 years there is no more life on this planet? Wouldn't that be, after all, the greatest form of "Survival of the fittest"? e.g. "Just Mother Nature doing some house cleaning"...
    Democrats still haven't evolved much past the pond scum.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Because all credible evidence supports the idea of Intelligent Design. (shrug)
    Evidence is credible, or it's not evidence. There are assertions, and they can be credible, or not, based upon evidence; yet there is not one single creationist assertion that does not presume (without any evidence for doing so) a creator--making those assertions invalid as scientific hypotheses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Democrats still haven't evolved much past the pond scum.......
    Now that's the kind of credible statement I like to see, -----NOT
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