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    Talking How do you know you're right?

    How do you know that what you believe is right? Can you? Is it possible to know? To answer 'you can't know' seems to be threatening to many, even to myself, and especially to those who say, "you don't need to know, that's why its called faith" (who are ironically the same people who define faith as being sure of things hoped for. Being sure.... is that not knowing?).

    Why is it so hard to say for us to say 'you can't know'? Maybe because our entire well-being is totally contingent upon our belief structure. It has been said, "Theology is the discipline that orders life."

    However, most people don't answer 'you can't know' because they believe that you can. Most people believe they know truth because they learned it, reasoned it, felt it, or read some set of Holy Scriptures. The funny things is: it's the same story across the board. The Americanized Christian has the same argument as the Shaolin priest in Japan. Everybody thinks they're right. I guess it would be pretty scary if they didn't know the truth.

    So here are the options:
    1) knowledge of the truth is possible, which makes a lot of people wrong and a few right
    2) or you just can't know, but only hope that you're close to some truth

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    Or you could just go to the source, ask God and listen to His answer. Worked for me.

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    From my experience, those who argue against faith by "How do you KNOW you are right?" are simply too afraid to make a decision.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    I know that I'm right becasue I've weighed all the scientific evidence and came up with the only logical conclusion: God created the universe and Jesus is God.

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    I don't know that I'm right in anything.. but I feel secure in the knowledge that I make the right choices for me, and if one of them happens to be wrong, I'm willing to accept whatever the consequences are, should there be any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Or you could just go to the source, ask God and listen to His answer. Worked for me.
    Immagination.--- You ask an imaginary figure a figurative question, and you imagine an answer, and of course it is the answer you were hoping for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doniston View Post
    Immagination.--- You ask an imaginary figure a figurative question, and you imagine an answer, and of course it is the answer you were hoping for.
    Who are you to decide what is imaginary and what is not to anyone other than yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    I know that I'm right becasue I've weighed all the scientific evidence and came up with the only logical conclusion: God created the universe and Jesus is God.
    It's hardly logical to say, "Jesus is God."

    You can say that you believe it, but you're not gonna get there through logical reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    From my experience, those who argue against faith by "How do you KNOW you are right?" are simply too afraid to make a decision.
    Or simply have no faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    It's hardly logical to say, "Jesus is God."

    You can say that you believe it, but you're not gonna get there through logical reasoning.
    Jesus is the "son" of God. You have to have "faith" that that is true. Most religons of the world require some leap of faith. Logic has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    Jesus is the "son" of God. You have to have "faith" that that is true. Most religons of the world require some leap of faith. Logic has nothing to do with it.
    I totally agree with Pale on this. All religions are faith based. You have to believe in the word of God. Religion is a belief. God approves of different religious faiths, just as he approves of different languages and different cultures. Religious, cultural and ethnic struggles go back to the dawn of man. They are portrayed in the Bible.
    God speaks to believers. Those who do not believe are not required to listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I totally agree with Pale on this. All religions are faith based. You have to believe in the word of God. Religion is a belief. God approves of different religious faiths, just as he approves of different languages and different cultures. Religious, cultural and ethnic struggles go back to the dawn of man. They are portrayed in the Bible.
    God speaks to believers. Those who do not believe are not required to listen.
    You and Pale agreeing has got to be one of the signs of the apocalypse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shattered View Post
    Who are you to decide what is imaginary and what is not to anyone other than yourself?
    it is my opinion. and I stick with it. your's is likely to be different, Dos is der vaight der ball vippen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I totally agree with Pale on this. All religions are faith based. You have to believe in the word of God. Religion is a belief. God approves of different religious faiths, just as he approves of different languages and different cultures. Religious, cultural and ethnic struggles go back to the dawn of man. They are portrayed in the Bible.
    God speaks to believers. Those who do not believe are not required to listen.
    and we don't. instead, we laugh a lot.
    Who else is as much a Bush-basher as I???
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    Having Faith, however, in Christ IS Logical.
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