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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Nope, DP *would* be in the line of fire, forcing you to have to censure users from posting, linking too, or discussing how to acquire copyrighted material. Because as the board owner you will be personally responsible for its being posted.
    Well, written like that, then EVERY forum on the internet would be at risk. But with well over 500,000 posts here and counting - not a single one should/could have been censored re: online piracy. But in theory, yes, if someone were to simply link to pirated software on here, we could technically be at risk. But since we don't and won't allow that activity, we have nothing to worry about.

    But it sure as hell may put a dent in my online habits... allegedly!
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    If it cuts down on people posting videos in here, cool.
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    This is priceless xD


    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Well, written like that, then EVERY forum on the internet would be at risk. But with well over 500,000 posts here and counting - not a single one should/could have been censored re: online piracy. But in theory, yes, if someone were to simply link to pirated software on here, we could technically be at risk. But since we don't and won't allow that activity, we have nothing to worry about.

    But it sure as hell may put a dent in my online habits... allegedly!
    None of the videos in the what are you listening ta thread are violating copyrights?

    Not to mention that i'm certain that i posted a song for SassyLady that was without copyright.

    just saying ^,^
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    Quick Update #2:
    You can now add Senators John Cornyn and Orrin Hatch to the list that have now removed their support.

    Meanwhile, the fat lady is rehearsing backstage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    None of the videos in the what are you listening ta thread are violating copyrights?

    Not to mention that i'm certain that i posted a song for SassyLady that was without copyright.

    just saying ^,^
    The videos are the responsibility of Youtube and their uploaders. I'm confident they won't shut down DP, but the video on Youtube may disappear leaving a "black hole" on that particular post. They want to eliminate the distribution of pirated movies and album releases, and sites designed to do no more than link to all this material. From what I'm reading, that's why they want to re-write the bill, to more accurately pinpoint what they are after. While DP would have a million to one shot of "disappearing" as the bill is currently written, and that's being generous, if rewritten to state what I covered above as to distributors, hosters, linkers... Then we wouldn't remotely qualify. Simply put, we probably have a better chance of a natural disaster taking out the data center for this site than being shut down as per SOPA.

    Even then, there are multiple datacenters, and we are in Texas and Atlanta. I have weekly backups on my computer and nightly backups stored online but elsewhere than this site. I also have URL's of many great webhosting providers located offshore, and many freedom of speech style hosts. Then I also have a list of registrars that are not willing to cave to SOPA.

    I say, nothing will happen. Your thoughts are possible, but extremely remote. And even if - they won't take me alive, I have backup plans if necessary!!
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    Also, Noir, those 2 images in your posts don't look to be the same. Are they supposed to be, or just from the same artist? The right side of his site and the left, don't look to be the same image as the one from the artist/photographer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I say, nothing will happen. Your thoughts are possible, but extremely remote. And even if - they won't take me alive, I have backup plans if necessary!!
    Careful with that attitude buddy. If they don't get you with SOPA or PIPA they'll nail you under the NDAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Also, Noir, those 2 images in your posts don't look to be the same. Are they supposed to be, or just from the same artist? The right side of his site and the left, don't look to be the same image as the one from the artist/photographer.
    They're exactly the same, just the one he has used is a little cropped.

    have taken the original image and added a few boxes to roughly show the cropped image within the image. The left and right boxes you can see, the middle box is covered.

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    Ok, now I see it when you point it out. BUT, it isn't an image that he's currently using. Someone went back in time using the "wayback machine" which indexes websites and changes over time. The image in questions was allowed to be used anywhere, so long as they gave credit to the artist. A "screenshot" tells them that they don't see one. I would have liked to have seen his site when it was live with this image to do a more detailed peek around to see if he credits the picture. Sometimes a screenshot doesn't show everything.

    He's still a shithead though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    If in doubt, save your IPs for manual access.


    # Torrent sites
    thepiratebay.org 194.71.107.15
    mininova.com 80.94.76.5
    btjunkie.com 93.158.65.211
    demonoid.com 62.149.24.66
    demonoid.me 62.149.24.67


    and ofcourse, debate policy - 69.73.139.27
    torrent sites are an invitation to trouble, I would avoid them. If not mistaken the ownership of thepiratebay has excahnged a few times and at some point one or more owner have been in court on piracy related charges. Most things that are available through the torrent sites are readily available elsewhere on the net if you look for it hard enough.

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    How are existing IP laws not sufficient for covering the potential issues without granting additional authority to the AG? It seems that they are adding additional penalties/powers for what is essentially a civil crime. (and yes I understand the criminal penalties)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler84 View Post
    It's a protest of the internet industry (or at least many websites) against two proposed bills called SOPA and PIPA. The entertainment industrie wants to gain the right to cencor the web and shut down every website having a britney spears song playing in the background of a video posted on it.

    For more information you should read the information page Google provides. Wikipedia is completely shut down today and does provide information on it to. (same goes for reddit and craigslist)
    Or any of the conservative/right wing sites it can. I've already caught them censoring certain info that is unflattering to lefwingnut rhetoric. As in ... you back to find an article or link and it's "magically" vanished.

    Quote Originally Posted by cadet View Post
    Something about the Congress Censoring the web...

    If that's about certain cites people visit in the late nights, i think that's the parents job to block those.

    But, if this goes farther then that, one small step toward communism, one giant leap for Gov't. We don't know how to take care of ourselves, let Uncle Sam tell you how.

    ah, and here's the link if you need some ref. https://www.google.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderknuckles View Post
    Dude, where have you been!?
    We've got major legislation going through congress right now that will have an enormous impact on the Internet and today is the day many Internet heavyweights have chosen to protest this legislation.

    Run a Google search on SOPA and PIPA for more information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    How are existing IP laws not sufficient for covering the potential issues without granting additional authority to the AG? It seems that they are adding additional penalties/powers for what is essentially a civil crime. (and yes I understand the criminal penalties)
    First let me say I am 100% against this bill and don't support any part of it at all.

    But, from a copyright owners perspective...

    Let me give you an example of the problems. I happen to go to a forum all the time, and this forum has about 20 million posts and counting as I type this. It has links to everything from games, movies, applications, documentaries, music... anything at all that you can think of. They simply link to the sofwtare though, which is a very gray area right now and mostly legal. Now, the actual sites that "host" the software are generally in the Netherlands, China and other places that don't give a crap about American copyright laws. Sure, some of them "might" remove a movie or so with a DMCA notice, but it's rare. These are hosts such as: Rapidshare, Filesonic, Megaupload, Wupload, Fileserve... and I can name these hosts for hours. Now I can also list the "warez" sites for days and days - these are the sites that do no more than have a ton of posts simply linking to the hosts that have the software. This makes for free and easy distribution of billlions of dollars of copyrighted material. And thne 999 out of 1000 get away with it as there is little the copyright holders and/or their counsel can do about it.

    So now these asswads want the ability to seize domains, webhosts, IP's, DNS servers and ANYTHING at all even remotely related to the piracy. I think they should stick with what they have, go after any/all American outfits stealing copyright and be happy with that. To potentially shut down portions of the internet is way overreaching, and that's putting it mildly. I understand their frustration, but this is like dropping a nuclear bomb on Cuba. They need pinpointed accuracy on their investigations instead, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    First let me say I am 100% against this bill and don't support any part of it at all.

    But, from a copyright owners perspective...

    Let me give you an example of the problems...

    So now these asswads want the ability to seize domains, webhosts, IP's, DNS servers and ANYTHING at all even remotely related to the piracy. I think they should stick with what they have, go after any/all American outfits stealing copyright and be happy with that. To potentially shut down portions of the internet is way overreaching, and that's putting it mildly. I understand their frustration, but this is like dropping a nuclear bomb on Cuba. They need pinpointed accuracy on their investigations instead, IMO.
    I (mostly) get all of that. I guess I'm with you that they can work with what they have. I remember last year? the Fed's shut down a bit torrent? site that got everyone up in arms about government action but in my mind it was completely justified given current IP laws.
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