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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Gabby, you have stated before that Romney is the only one who could defeat Obama. Can you be more specific and state why it is you feel Gingrich can't beat Obama?
    Jimmy, Newt will get torn up in the general election on his past "morality" issues. Just saying that its an easy target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Jimmy, Newt will get torn up in the general election on his past "morality" issues. Just saying that its an easy target.
    Newt is Fake Conservative, Looks like he's got some here buying his great talk though. I love to here him talk most of the time but his actions speak alot louder. He'll give the country over to the U.N just as fast a Obama both are globalist not nationalist.
    But strictly as campaign against Obama I'm not sure how the Left could talk about Newt morals with a starit face while they are are nearly ready promoted sex with animals Gay marriage and looking for the NAMBLA vote. Multiple wives and little fooling around is pretty tame against the lefts supposed sexual "values".

    But I just don't get why people are buying the Newt Snowjob AGAIN. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice.. um you won't fool me again.
    well no wait a minute,
    Iraq has WMDs and is gonna kill us, um.. Iran has WMDs and is gonna kill us ...nevermind
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Iraq has WMDs and is gonna kill us, um.. Iran has WMDs and is gonna kill us ...nevermind
    Kinda like...

    The government is going to release money that they can track us with
    The IRS will be showing up with AK-47's
    The government is involved in a conspiracy with homosexuals and AIDS
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Newt is Fake Conservative, Looks like he's got some here buying his great talk though. I love to here him talk most of the time but his actions speak alot louder. He'll give the country over to the U.N just as fast a Obama bith are gloabalist not nationalist.
    But strickly as campagmn against Obama I'm not sure how the Left could talk about Newt morals with a starit face while they are are nearly ready promoted sex with animals Gay marriage and looking for the NAMBLA vote. Multiple wives and little fooling around is pretty tame against those the lefts supposed sexual "values".

    I just don't get why people are buying the Newt Snowjob AGAIN. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice.. um you won't fool me again.
    well no wait a minute,
    Iraq has WMDs and is gonna kill us, um.. Iran has WMDs and is gonna kill us ...nevermind
    Rev looks like you and I may agree on some things.

    This country will never be fixed as long as Dems or Repubs are in control, in fact it maybe too late. With either of those two in charge political payback and gamesmanship will continue with little attention payed to real problems.

    Socially............forget it..........we've already flushed the country, its a cesspool.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Kinda like...

    The government is going to release money that they can track us with
    The IRS will be showing up with AK-47's
    The government is involved in a conspiracy with homosexuals and AIDS
    Is that how the cops always know i'm speeding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Is that how the cops always know i'm speeding?
    That's correct, it's the trackable bills in the "new money" and the IRS is following you with AK47's like Mako sharks! I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried!!
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    That's correct, it's the trackable bills in the "new money" and the IRS is following you with AK47's like Mako sharks! I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried!!
    Let the IRS come, hard to get blood from a turnip, Ak or no AK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Newt said "...I'm not a Washington insider.." among other things this morning.
    Does anyone buy that?
    ??......have you noticed how the Washington insiders do not want him elected?......does that make you think he's a Washington insider?.....

    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    Newt is Fake Conservative
    Newt is a fiscal conservative.....given the fact he's the only person alive today who led a Congress that reduced spending, I would say he's the last person you can acuse of being a fake conservative.....

    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    If Gingrich ran in the general election, the media would find every skeleton in his closet and more. .
    do you think there are any left?.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post

    All any nominee would have to do, is continually point out to the entire country just how much Obama has screwed things up in only 4 years.
    the number one campaign slogan this year is going to be "what would Obama do if we gave him four more years, and why the fuck hasn't he done it already!".......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Newt is a fiscal conservative.....given the fact he's the only person alive today who led a Congress that reduced spending, I would say he's the last person you can acuse of being a fake conservative.....
    I'm pretty sure spending was never actually reduced, slowed down spending growth? yes, but not reduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Certainly. Gingrich is a liar and a serial adulterer. What makes Newt any more acceptable than, say, John Edwards?
    If Gingrich ran in the general election, the media would find every skeleton in his closet and more. Instead of the focus being on what Obama failed to achieve while in office, it would be Gingrich's past.
    In addition to Newt's lack of moral integrity, he has favored some of the same health care issues that Obama has.

    When Shrub ran against John Kerry, the GOP ran a campaign attacking Kerry's character rather than defending Shrub's performance in office.
    The Dems will run the same campaign this year, only dirtier and more vicious. The GOP will spend all their time and resources and defending Newt instead of attacking Obama.
    Gingrich...Romney...Santorum...Paul...Regardless of who wins the nomination, the GOP will spend more time and money trying to defend them than in attacking Obama. And watching the GOP eat their own is hugely entertaining. But this is just the natural consequence of insisting on ideological purity. As the ideologues become more and more radical, fewer and fewer can meet their ideological sniff test so they wind up turning on each other. This leads to the collapse of the movement, and the collapse of modern American "conservatism"...actually fascism...is a thing to be gratefully anticipated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ??......have you noticed how the Washington insiders do not want him elected?......does that make you think he's a Washington insider?.....
    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Newt is a fiscal conservative.....given the fact he's the only person alive today who led a Congress that reduced spending, I would say he's the last person you can acuse of being a fake conservative.....
    I'll give Newt and Clinton credit for balancing the budget they did get that done. Congress worked it and clinton supported it.
    and Newt gets his share of the credit.

    But ill post this list again:
    On the budget

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/is-...ve-you-decide/

    - Continually supported increased federal spending.
    - voted in one of the most-pork laden, expensive transportation bill in history
    - Big supporter of Foreign Aid — even to Soviets through the Export-Import Bank.
    - In one year (1994-1995) Gingrich voted for nearly $45 billion in foreign aid.
    - He helped push through Federally-funded loan guarantees to Communist China.
    - Voted to give billions of dollars to United Nations “peacekeeping” operations;
    - Bailed out savings and loan institutions in 1991. $40B Bank bailout
    -03/–/1993 – He was “passionately in favor” of sending $1.6 Billion in foreign aid to Russia.
    -04/25/1996 – Voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion)

    -02/13/2011 – He criticized Obama for sending less U.S. taxdollars to Egypt.

    this is not fiscal conservatism in my book it's not reducing the size of gov't.


    How about American jobs?
    -Voted for NAFTA,
    -03/15/2011 – Says that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
    i hear Ross Perot "Giant sucking sound of awl the merician jobs gowin to Mexico Larry..." and Newt is standing with Clinton saying no this is good.

    How about lil things like freedom other conservative stuff?
    -09/25/1996 – Introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
    -04/10/1995 – He supported Federal taxdollars being spent on abortions.
    -02/15/2007 – He supported Bush’s proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
    -04/17/2008 – Made a commercial with Nancy Pelosi on Climate Change.
    -02/15/2011 – His book said that he believes man-made climate-change and advocated creating “a new endowment for conservation and the environment.”
    -12/08/2008 – He was paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from bringing necessary reform.
    -11/15/2010 – He defended Romneycare; blamed liberals
    - Supported spending $30B for the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that shackled gun owners with new restrictions, federalized a number of crimes, and handed the feds police powers that the Constitution reserves to the states.
    -04/04/2007 – He says that there should be a clear distinction about what weapons should be reserved for only for the military.
    - Chicken Hawk He was a draft-dodger during the Vietnam War, yet pushed aggressive foreign interventionism his entire political career.
    - Urged the House to repeal the War Powers Act and give the Presidency more power.
    - Urged Clinton to expand military presence in Bosnia.
    -11/27/1994 – He supported the GATT Treaty giving sovereignty to the U.N.
    -11/29/2006 – He said that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism. Wants to stop terrorists from using the internet. Called for a “serious debate about the 1st Amendment.”
    -10/22/1991 – He voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.


    That's doesn't spell conservative or smaller gov't to me very much at all but maybe all that IS conservative now a days with rank and file republicans.

    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    Gingrich...Romney...Santorum...Paul...Regardless of who wins the nomination, the GOP will spend more time and money trying to defend them than in attacking Obama. And watching the GOP eat their own is hugely entertaining. But this is just the natural consequence of insisting on ideological purity. As the ideologues become more and more radical, fewer and fewer can meet their ideological sniff test so they wind up turning on each other. This leads to the collapse of the movement, and the collapse of modern American "conservatism"...actually fascism...is a thing to be gratefully anticipated.
    And Obama Smart Bombing so secret threats and women and children , in Countries that haven't declared war on us. And Killing Americans without trial, or Claiming the right to Jail people indefinitely without trail is some how NOT facist when a democrat does it. Gab you need to wake up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    ... modern American "conservatism"...actually fascism...
    Well that's extremely ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    That's doesn't spell conservative or smaller gov't to me very much at all but maybe all that IS conservative now a days with rank and file republicans.
    works for me....balanced against everything he has done, and taking into consideration 90% of that is spin, I can live with it.....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    works for me....balanced against everything he has done, and taking into consideration 90% of that is spin, I can live with it.....
    real votes, real political support and real verbal support are spin?

    I don't think so.
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    ^Many of those words aren't his, therefore spin.

    He supported NAFTA... RP supports free trade... Do you want to pick and choose what's conservatism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    ^Many of those words aren't his, therefore spin.
    ...
    Such as
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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