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    Default California passes sweeping auto emission standards

    SAN FRANCISCO – Seeking to influence other states and Washington, California air regulators passed sweeping auto emission standards Friday that include a mandate to have 1.4 million electric and hybrid vehicles on state roads by 2025.
    The California Air Resources Board unanimously approved the new rules that require that one in seven of the new cars sold in the state in 2025 be an electric or other zero-emission vehicle.
    The plan also mandates a 75 percent reduction in smog-forming pollutants by 2025, and a 50 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from today's standards.

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    Trade groups representing auto dealers worried that the new regulations would increase the costs of vehicles for consumers and stifle the industry's growth.

    The California New Car Dealers Association and other industry groups representing those who sell cars said the board is overestimating consumer demand for electric vehicles and other so-called "zero-emission vehicles."
    Dealers are concerned that the regulations will lead to higher costs in all cars, and say consumers have been slow to warm to electric and other zero-emission vehicles.

    Board member Sandra Berg, who said she drives the all-electric Nissan Leaf, said before the vote that regulators need to take consumer behavior and choice seriously in this equation.
    She said a lot of work must be done to educate dealers to sell the new generation of cars.



    I'm wondering how they are planning to enforce the 1 in 7 cars sold must be electric or zero emission? What if the public doesn't want to buy them?


    Guess they are trying to kill even more jobs out there in CA? And they wonder why a lot of their CA based companies are moving to Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    SAN FRANCISCO – Seeking to influence other states and Washington, California air regulators passed sweeping auto emission standards Friday that include a mandate to have 1.4 million electric and hybrid vehicles on state roads by 2025.
    The California Air Resources Board unanimously approved the new rules that require that one in seven of the new cars sold in the state in 2025 be an electric or other zero-emission vehicle.
    The plan also mandates a 75 percent reduction in smog-forming pollutants by 2025, and a 50 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from today's standards.

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    Trade groups representing auto dealers worried that the new regulations would increase the costs of vehicles for consumers and stifle the industry's growth.

    The California New Car Dealers Association and other industry groups representing those who sell cars said the board is overestimating consumer demand for electric vehicles and other so-called "zero-emission vehicles."
    Dealers are concerned that the regulations will lead to higher costs in all cars, and say consumers have been slow to warm to electric and other zero-emission vehicles.

    Board member Sandra Berg, who said she drives the all-electric Nissan Leaf, said before the vote that regulators need to take consumer behavior and choice seriously in this equation.
    She said a lot of work must be done to educate dealers to sell the new generation of cars.



    I'm wondering how they are planning to enforce the 1 in 7 cars sold must be electric or zero emission? What if the public doesn't want to buy them?


    Guess they are trying to kill even more jobs out there in CA? And they wonder why a lot of their CA based companies are moving to Texas.
    Exactly what I was wondering. Do they intend to tell dealers they have to carry an electric line? Maybe they'll have to suspend sales of gas vehicles until they sell the next electric. I'd say it's time to open a bunch of car dealerships just outside the Cali border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Exactly what I was wondering. Do they intend to tell dealers they have to carry an electric line? Maybe they'll have to suspend sales of gas vehicles until they sell the next electric. I'd say it's time to open a bunch of car dealerships just outside the Cali border.
    Makes you wonder what they actually mean by..."we need to educate dealers on how to sell the new generation cars".

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    Will donkey carts be regulated too ?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Will donkey carts be regulated too ?
    Do donkey's fart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Do donkey's fart?
    not if they get their daily dose of Beano

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    not if they get their daily dose of Beano
    Who is going to make sure that happens?

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    Donkey regulators-----DUH

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Donkey regulators-----DUH
    See there... you answered your own question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    See there... you answered your own question.

    I hate when you trick me like that.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    I'd say it's time to open a bunch of car dealerships just outside the Cali border.
    PRCalifornia will refuse to register your out-of-state gasoline cars except in proportion to the number of electric cars you've registered.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    talk about your unfunded mandates, sheesh. Incredible.
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    How ridiculous can California get? I guess they figured if Obamacare can force you to buy health insurance that the government should also be able to force you to buy an electric vehicle.... Thank God I live in Arkansas.

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    I vote yes for stricter auto emission standards and no to electric vehicles, which are totally impractical for long term use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    SAN FRANCISCO – Seeking to influence other states and Washington, California air regulators passed sweeping auto emission standards Friday that include a mandate to have 1.4 million electric and hybrid vehicles on state roads by 2025.
    The California Air Resources Board unanimously approved the new rules that require that one in seven of the new cars sold in the state in 2025 be an electric or other zero-emission vehicle.
    The plan also mandates a 75 percent reduction in smog-forming pollutants by 2025, and a 50 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from today's standards.

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    Trade groups representing auto dealers worried that the new regulations would increase the costs of vehicles for consumers and stifle the industry's growth.

    The California New Car Dealers Association and other industry groups representing those who sell cars said the board is overestimating consumer demand for electric vehicles and other so-called "zero-emission vehicles."
    Dealers are concerned that the regulations will lead to higher costs in all cars, and say consumers have been slow to warm to electric and other zero-emission vehicles.

    Board member Sandra Berg, who said she drives the all-electric Nissan Leaf, said before the vote that regulators need to take consumer behavior and choice seriously in this equation.
    She said a lot of work must be done to educate dealers to sell the new generation of cars.



    I'm wondering how they are planning to enforce the 1 in 7 cars sold must be electric or zero emission? What if the public doesn't want to buy them?


    Guess they are trying to kill even more jobs out there in CA? And they wonder why a lot of their CA based companies are moving to Texas.
    California sucks. People like Gabby live there. I'd rather live between Van Horn and Ft Stockton than live in that sewer of a state.

    The shame of it is, the same as NY and IL, the titty-sucking leftwingers that hug the big cities mae the rules for the other 90% of normal people. Sickening that we are a nation of laws where the majority is supposed to rule; yet, the losers get to run the show because they congregate in urban hovels and vote like cockroaches.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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