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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Why do you say that Jim? I contend that sex in general is natural, but marriage is not. And yes, I realize that not everyone actually HAS sex, but my belief is everyone would like to.
    You said if marriage were natural, then EVERYONE would be doing it. You then stated that eating and urinating are natural, hence EVERYONE does it. You even made a point of highlighting the EVERYONE both times. This is equating natural with EVERYONE doing something, but I'm confident you'll deny you just inferred that, and that you know better than I about what you meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    That would also necessitate the belief that Adam had no choice as Eve was the only game in town, NO?

    Before the introduction of sin (IE When that bitch Eve tricked Adam into eating the apple LOL) I don't believe Adam even would have known what cheating was even if he had the chance or opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    You said if marriage were natural, then EVERYONE would be doing it. You then stated that eating and urinating are natural, hence EVERYONE does it. You even made a point of highlighting the EVERYONE both times. This is equating natural with EVERYONE doing something, but I'm confident you'll deny you just inferred that, and that you know better than I about what you meant.
    At this point , I have NO idea what you are saying. I have never said that I think gay sex is natural so I'm confused at to your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    At this point , I have NO idea what you are saying. I have never said that I think gay sex is natural so I'm confused at to your point.
    You equated natural with meaning that everyone does it, EVERYONE, several times. Then you realized it when I pointed it out that not everyone has gay sex, so according to your logic, it's not natural. I stated that only helped OCA's argument. Now you'll start off by playing dumb and then go into full denial mode and dance around what you obviously said.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    At this point , I have NO idea what you are saying. I have never said that I think gay sex is natural so I'm confused at to your point.
    What else is new, you have fun with your play on words until you are exposed and then play dumb fox...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    You equated natural with meaning that everyone does it, EVERYONE, several times. Then you realized it when I pointed it out that not everyone has gay sex, so according to your logic, it's not natural. I stated that only helped OCA's argument. Now you'll start off by playing dumb and then go into full denial mode and dance around what you obviously said.
    Okay, I see what you are saying now.

    First of all, I said MARRIAGE wasn't natural. I in fact said I believe SEX is natural. I don't have enough evidence to PROVE that only heterosexual sex is natural (although my personal OPINION is that is the case) though.

    So, saying sex is natural =/= saying either heterosexual OR gay sex is natural. BOTH could be natural, and the only thing I've ever argued about THAT is that we don't have proof that some aren't born that way even though I personally believe it's choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Okay, I see what you are saying now.

    First of all, I said MARRIAGE wasn't natural. I in fact said I believe SEX is natural. I don't have enough evidence to PROVE that only heterosexual sex is natural (although my personal OPINION is that is the case) though.

    So, saying sex is natural =/= saying either heterosexual OR gay sex is natural. BOTH could be natural, and the only thing I've ever argued about THAT is that we don't have proof that some aren't born that way even though I personally believe it's choice.
    Left foot green...right hand blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Left foot green...right hand blue.

    You've never held the belief that something you believe can't be proven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    You've never held the belief that something you believe can't be proven?
    Sure...but I avoid arguing against what I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Sure...but I avoid arguing against what I believe.
    LOL
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Sure...but I avoid arguing against what I believe.


    Kind of thought the obvious was obvious, confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Sure...but I avoid arguing against what I believe.
    I'm not arguing what I believe, I'm arguing that what I believe can't be proven. Would be just the same as if someone posted on here " It is FACT that there is a God " , well certainy I believe there is a God, but that isn't a fact. I BELIEVE gays choose to be gay, but the facts don't prove that. Simple as that.

    And certainly saying marriage isn't natural has nothing to do with whether sex is natural anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    You said if marriage were natural, then EVERYONE would be doing it. You then stated that eating and urinating are natural, hence EVERYONE does it. You even made a point of highlighting the EVERYONE both times. This is equating natural with EVERYONE doing something, but I'm confident you'll deny you just inferred that, and that you know better than I about what you meant.


    Everyone need not do it for it to be natural--and you are correct Jim. CH overstated his point using an absolute term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    Everyone need not do it for it to be natural--and you are correct Jim. CH overstated his point using an absolute term.
    D'oh, thanks for clearing up what Jim was getting at. Brain fart I guess.

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