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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    That's right, it's not relative, FJ, that's my point. It isn't that schools want to waste food, or order food that will have to be thrown out. They don't have a choice, it's law. They have to have enough food to feed every single kid in the school, period. Whether the kids pay for it or not, they must still have that food, just like Casinos have to have money on hand equal to the amount of chips in play on the floor.

    It does sound though like your School board there needs a swift kick in the ass, cause clearly they're going off the deep end with that.
    Another example of stupid regulations. Our school has lunch brought in from an outside vendor and they only bring what is paid for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    They already have a program in place via the United Way which partners with several schools (including some in NM) to funds take home food for kids. In order to participate your family has to qualify for free or reduced lunches. To me it's already only a matter of time before this program is government funded.

    I will also add that a lot of children who qualify for "reduced lunches" are not starving on the weekends. Heck...my kids can qualify for reduced lunches if I really wanted to milk the system for freebies.

    http://www.unitedwaycfc.org/post/uni...k-pack-program
    Well, howzabout that. And if these parents already on all kinds of assistance go and have more children, I suppose we will take over the responsibility for them too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Well, howzabout that. And if these parents already on all kinds of assistance go and have more children, I suppose we will take over the responsibility for them too?

    I can tell you for a fact...that when I went to apply for daycare aid after getting a better paying job and being turned down (because I made $12.00 too much a month to qualify any longer). A case worked for CYFD...told me point blank 2 ways in which to cheat the system OR to have another child. So, yes...we will be responsible for them too.

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    am a little sad nobody commented on my description, or parts, of mary's nights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    am a little sad nobody commented on my description, or parts, of mary's nights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp;528357While my wife is a special breed of woman, she's only human. Just like anyone else. [B
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    am a little sad nobody commented on my description, or parts, of mary's nights.
    I was too busy using my imagination!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Another example of stupid regulations. Our school has lunch brought in from an outside vendor and they only bring what is paid for.
    Actually, many schools already stopped making their own food on site, but they still have to account for feeding everyone, and the health regs are against the schools on this one. The alternative is this: Which kids that brought money to pay for lunch don't get served some days, especially the days when pizza is served? Hell, restaurants, fast food places, they all have excess food for exactly this reason, because they would rather have a bunch extra and have to scrap some, than to hit a shortage wherein the customers can't buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    Actually, many schools already stopped making their own food on site, but they still have to account for feeding everyone, and the health regs are against the schools on this one. The alternative is this: Which kids that brought money to pay for lunch don't get served some days, especially the days when pizza is served? Hell, restaurants, fast food places, they all have excess food for exactly this reason, because they would rather have a bunch extra and have to scrap some, than to hit a shortage wherein the customers can't buy.
    Yep...my kids have had catered food at school all through Grade School,Jr High and now High School. And both of them say the food is terrible. The only thing that has changed over the years is where it is cooked apparently.

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    So, um, about the OP: The question is how to reverse course on this. I mean, these proteins are literally so widespread at this point that pretty much everything we eat is injected with them, and thanks to the government playing favorites with the rules, organic alternative are going to be prohibitively expensive for most the population for a while yet.

    I think the key is making certain this doesn't happen again. Simple testing of the proteins would have most likely turned up these side effects, and while in most instance I think the FDA does overstep, this is one of those ones where they really do need to be proactive. Something being introduced to so much of our food supply obviously needs to be cleared first, not just blindly thrown in and see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    Yep...my kids have had catered food at school all through Grade School,Jr High and now High School. And both of them say the food is terrible. The only thing that has changed over the years is where it is cooked apparently.
    lol, well, cafeterias never exactly captured the greatest culinary minds of the world. I doubt we'll ever see really good tasting food being served in our schools. This, more than cost of time, is why I would likely make my kids' lunches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    So, um, about the OP: The question is how to reverse course on this. I mean, these proteins are literally so widespread at this point that pretty much everything we eat is injected with them, and thanks to the government playing favorites with the rules, organic alternative are going to be prohibitively expensive for most the population for a while yet.

    For addressing the OP.

    I think the key is making certain this doesn't happen again. Simple testing of the proteins would have most likely turned up these side effects, and while in most instance I think the FDA does overstep, this is one of those ones where they really do need to be proactive. Something being introduced to so much of our food supply obviously needs to be cleared first, not just blindly thrown in and see what happens.
    Consider that the Big Companies are catering to the export demands by providing food free of Genetic Engineering. We should pressure Government to both label genetically engineered food, and provide safe food as an alternative, for starters. In a perfect World, the EPA should take it up the ass, and fund the cost out of It's Pension and Retirement fund, in return we can promise not to prosecute. ..... Ring..... Ring..... Ring...... Oh shit, I over slept again. I hope I wasn't talking in my sleep, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    ... but they still have to account for feeding everyone...
    Apparently not everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Here's an opinion on that. There is a direct correlation between 9 lb chicken breasts becoming available at wal mart and almost every 15 y/o girl having huge tits. It can't be healthy to be eating all that shit.

    Unfortunately the alternative is usually either very expensive organic food or limited food options.
    do you mean to imply that's a bad side-effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post

    First of all congrats to your grandson.
    Thank you.

    Second of all, I think we all know there is a difference between missing an occasional lunch and not having lunch on a regular basis. So your anecdote, while cute, doesn't apply.
    My point, which you completely missed in my little anecdote, is that parents and children need to learn personal responsibility. The public school system has turned the masses into dependent, can't think for themselves, individuals who expect society to take care of them.

    Darwin's Law has totally been skewed by society's need to coddle. No wonder "advanced civilizations" fail.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Look we agree that many CHOOSE not to make sacrifices that they probably SHOULD make. But in the meantime we need to face realities. A sad reality is that many a parent see schools as day cares which by God not only have to take care of their children for 10 hours a day and provide for all their needs, but also ones that can't actually discipline said children. The choices are either tell those people to fuck off or to deal with it the best we can. That's why schools must have police on campus now, nurses on staff, cafeterias, sports teams, after school activities, and a myriad of other things. Back when Laura Engal was a a teacher your ass learned to read , write, and do math and that was ALL the school provided, but those days are long gone my friend. Never to return.
    And how did these parents get to this point? Because, we as a society, have allowed it to happen through insidious things like providing cafeteria lunches so that parents can turn their back on that responsibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Here's an opinion on that. There is a direct correlation between 9 lb chicken breasts becoming available at wal mart and almost every 15 y/o girl having huge tits. It can't be healthy to be eating all that shit.

    Unfortunately the alternative is usually either very expensive organic food or limited food options.
    I ate home grown chickens and had huge boobies that had to be reduced because of genetics, not the food I ate. Big boobies have been around a lot longer than genetically altered food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    am a little sad nobody commented on my description, or parts, of mary's nights.
    That's cuz some of us don't know you as well and were going "Is Darin's wife really a stripper? That doesn't exactly fit with what I know of him..."

    If she is, she's a braver woman than I am. If she's not, well, you have your little fantasy, right?
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