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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Christians think of Ba'al as the devil.

    And some gay folk admit they weren't born that way. SOME are even against homosexual-marriage.

    (shrug) You have a point, or are you so horny about changing the subject of every thread you are in you cant control yourself, man?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    And some gay folk admit they weren't born that way. SOME are even against homosexual-marriage.

    (shrug) You have a point, or are you so horny about changing the subject of every thread you are in you cant control yourself, man?

    Try to stay on topic. We're discussing Ba'al. He is considered one of the seven princes of hell.

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    You are absolutely the WORST Debater on this board. You made a stupid point, Avatar schooled you, you went back to the stupid point. You are so dumb, you are really dumb. For real - You don't have to confess. We can see through you.



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    Try staying on topic. I know you can do it, d

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Try to stay on topic. We're discussing Ba'al. He is considered one of the seven princes of hell.
    And how many Christians do you think spend any time thinking about the seven princes of hell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Christians think of Ba'al as the devil.
    He's the antithesis of God. Why wouldn't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    And how many Christians do you think spend any time thinking about the seven princes of hell?
    And how would that make him any less a devil?

    Heck, how many Christians spend much time thinking of Ba'al?
    If we were as industrious to become good as to make ourselves great, we should become really great by being good, and the number of valuable men would be much increased; but it is a grand mistake to think of being great without goodness; and i pronounce it as certain that there was never yet a truly great man that was not at the same time truly virtuous." - Ben Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Christians think of Ba'al as the devil.
    Christians think all idols are backed by "devils" or demons. not necessarily THE devil.
    But you've avoid my earlier point about the jewish scriptures portrayal of Ba'al as evil.
    Are you trying to be honest here or do you have an agenda.
    or do you have a notion of what you think others believe that your trying to convince me of.
    I'm a christain and I'm telling you what I believe.
    I'm not sure what you are but i can make something up in the new age vain and tell you what believe as well if you like Wind Song .


    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Try to stay on topic. We're discussing Ba'al. He is considered one of the seven princes of hell.
    I ask you again what's your source? Medieval Catholicism? FYI Medieval Catholicism is stuffed full of paganism myth and occultism, a little thing called the reformation tried to purge most of the pagan and occultic grafts, with some success. I suppose some few Catholics might still go there but frankly I'm a BI-BLE Christian. and As far as the BI-BLE says there anit no 7 princes of Hell no how.
    Contrary to popular believe the Bi-Ble tells us that Satan/the Devil is not King of Hell either. He's going to be the Cheif resident as punishment. He's not and never was the ruler of it.
    a little verse early on in the book of Revelations lets you know who the Ruler of Hell is.

    "I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hell."
    Jesus Christ, Revelations 1:18

    and at the end of revelations we see jesus giving orders to angels who:
    "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
    Revelations 20:10


    But to stay on topic both old and New Testament Jews view Idol worship of ALL types and names as the worship of Devils -(plural) or as the worship of Nothing. but never revered as "Lord" or High masters" or whatever you said before.

    "But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils."
    1 Corinthians 10:20 --New testament Jewish Christian Paul


    16 They provoked God to anger with foreign, or other, gods that they praised, and they stirred him to rage with their abominable doings.
    17 They offered to fiends, or to devils, and not to God, to gods which they knew not, to new gods which they discovered in their searching, that their fathers did not worship.
    18 You have forsaken God that begat you, and you have forgotten your Lord creator/the Lord your maker.

    Deuteronomy 32:16-18 --old testament Jew Moses


    please note that Jews and Christians only recognize ONE true God, One Lord, and Ba'al ain't him and never was..



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    21Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
    22Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    And how many Christians do you think spend any time thinking about the seven princes of hell?
    Beats me. I'm not a Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Beats me. I'm not a Christian.
    So I guess you just throwing it out there really doesn't mean anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So I guess you just throwing it out there really doesn't mean anything.
    I looked it up on google and the first thing I found said about Ba'al was that he was a demon in Christianity.

    I'm not picking a fight. Damn, you folks are touchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Beats me. I'm not a Christian.
    Then why are posting what we believe?


    you don't see us speaking for carpet munchers do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    I looked it up and the first thing it said about Ba'al was that he was a demon in Christianity. I'm not picking a fight.
    Just saying ridiculous, pointless things then. Way to keep it relevant by posting the first google hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Just saying ridiculous, pointless things then. Way to keep it relevant by posting the first google hit.
    It is not ridiculous. Worshipping Ba'al in modern times, maybe.

    Take your ugly attitude today for a walk. I'm not playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    It is not ridiculous. Worshipping Ba'al in modern times, maybe.

    Take your ugly attitude today for a walk. I'm not playing.
    How's my attitude ugly? That I thought your line of reasoning was pointless and mentioned it?
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