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    Default "Beware of Christians" Movie

    Has anyone seen or heard of this movie?

    It has been one wild ride for Texas college graduate Wilbur "Will" Bakke, who has taken the country by storm in recent months promoting his documentary "Beware of Christians."Joined by three pals who also grew up as Bible-believing Christians, Bakke travelled across Europe to make the thought-provoking film, and in the process concluded that Jesus doesn’t exactly resemble the healthy, wealthy Americanized Jesus that he had grown to know and love.

    “Most Christians feel like they have to be perfect all the time, and go to church, and there all these rules about drinking, sex and materialism,” Bakke told FOX411’s Pop Tarts column. “But it is not about church at all, it is about really getting to know Jesus, really developing your own, personal relationship with Him. When you have this, you will be compelled to act differently.”


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...#ixzz1oxMSpVvy


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    havent heard of it. but I do take issue with the idea that most Christians feeling they have to be perfect. I dont think that's the case at all. In fact, I think it's quite the opposite. Most Christians are quite laidback about their faith and don't recieve all the blessings they could have had they been alittle more diligent. JMHO
    If we were as industrious to become good as to make ourselves great, we should become really great by being good, and the number of valuable men would be much increased; but it is a grand mistake to think of being great without goodness; and i pronounce it as certain that there was never yet a truly great man that was not at the same time truly virtuous." - Ben Franklin

    Imagine what good we can do if we all joined together, united as followers of Christ - M. Russell Ballard

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    havent heard of it. but I do take issue with the idea that most Christians feeling they have to be perfect. I dont think that's the case at all. In fact, I think it's quite the opposite. Most Christians are quite laidback about their faith and don't recieve all the blessings they could have had they been alittle more diligent. JMHO
    Until I see the movie I can't comment about where the filmmaker got the idea ... could be from his own personal perception growing up, or as a result of his documentary.

    I think it will be interesting to watch.
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    It seems like the message that is in movies and entertainment is that Christians are evil people who try to force their world view on everybody else.

    Yes, definitely, we had the White House demand that our churches provide birth control through their insurance carriers because that's how we are trying to take over the world.

    My local paper has letter after letter by so called independent thinkers who blame the Catholic Church because of a decision made by the White House. That's like blaming the fetus for forcing the mother to abort it or blaming the kid who was killed by a drunk driver for causing the accident.

    The truth be told... the ones who really are trying their utmost to force their way on everyone is the Left. They legislate, litigate and tax their way into our lives. Frankly, if every one on the Left would simply mind their own business, we'd have a lot fewer problems in this world.
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    Wow , Next up "Beware of Zionists" Movie

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    There's a grain of truth to the premise. It's why I lost interest in conservatism. It's not enough to defend traditional marriage, favor prayer in public schools, be against evolution, etc., etc., etc. It's the demand of extreme conformity on even very trivial matters. I refer to them as the modern day Pharisees. I read conservative analysis of issues and agree with most of it. However, when I see a culture that demands conformity, it's time to run, not walk away. That was the thing that made me throw up my hands and give up on living in the South, seeking out the most un-Southern place I could find. My first major employment after leaving Tennessee was in Cambridge, Mass. Being a non-conformist in Tennessee is much more difficult than being a Republican in Cambridge.

    If you want an indication how left wing Cambridge is, it's not difficult to find Che Guevara photos when you go out to eat and here are the 2008 election results (click on image to view):

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    There's a grain of truth to the premise. It's why I lost interest in conservatism. It's not enough to defend traditional marriage, favor prayer in public schools, be against evolution, etc., etc., etc. It's the demand of extreme conformity on even very trivial matters. I refer to them as the modern day Pharisees. I read conservative analysis of issues and agree with most of it. However, when I see a culture that demands conformity, it's time to run, not walk away. That was the thing that made me throw up my hands and give up on living in the South, seeking out the most un-Southern place I could find. My first major employment after leaving Tennessee was in Cambridge, Mass. Being a non-conformist in Tennessee is much more difficult than being a Republican in Cambridge.
    You're tying religious beliefs to conservatism. I contend the link isn't strong.

    The premise of the film - it's spot on. Who was it that said "Truly following God is based in the desire for knowlege. To know Him. Religion is based in the desire to control."?

    Moving from uber-left-wing Seattle area to LA (Lower Alabama) was a shock for me. Initially I thought I was moving back to 'My People' - reasonable conservatives. What i got was the kind of conservative that boggles my mind. The folks actually organized Protests (marching, signs, etc) against a particular restaurant who was applying for a liquior license. The local pastor of a BBC (Big Baptist Church) lead the way. Sickening to me; and I bet that sorta thing (the protesting of the restaurant) not only grieves the Holy Spirit, but makes Jesus cry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    You're tying religious beliefs to conservatism. I contend the link isn't strong.

    The premise of the film - it's spot on. Who was it that said "Truly following God is based in the desire for knowlege. To know Him. Religion is based in the desire to control."?

    Moving from uber-left-wing Seattle area to LA (Lower Alabama) was a shock for me. Initially I thought I was moving back to 'My People' - reasonable conservatives. What i got was the kind of conservative that boggles my mind. The folks actually organized Protests (marching, signs, etc) against a particular restaurant who was applying for a liquior license. The local pastor of a BBC (Big Baptist Church) lead the way. Sickening to me; and I bet that sorta thing (the protesting of the restaurant) not only grieves the Holy Spirit, but makes Jesus cry.
    I guess they would have protested the wedding at Cana too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    I guess they would have protested the wedding at Cana too.
    b-b-b-but..that was NON-alcoholic wine, Abbey!!!

    The scriptures used the word WINE just to confuse us...when they OBVIOUSLY meant 'juice'. They for SURE meant 'juice' because that means our prohibition against things we don't like makes SENSE.




    One day, Abs, I'm going to write a book. Just sayin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    b-b-b-but..that was NON-alcoholic wine, Abbey!!!

    The scriptures used the word WINE just to confuse us...when they OBVIOUSLY meant 'juice'. They for SURE meant 'juice' because that means our prohibition against things we don't like makes SENSE.




    One day, Abs, I'm going to write a book. Just sayin.
    Yeah, because we know the people of that time never drank wine. Nor did Jesus ever tell a parable about wine skins. Must have meant juice skins.
    It was nice of the guests to compliment the hosts on saving the best juice for last, too
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    Beware of Christians? Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Beware of Christians? Why?

    The word Christians should be in quotes like this "Christians". Spend a month in rural Alabama or Mississippi and it will come to you. In a nutshell, it's an overabundance of petty, cliquish, manipulative, imposing, nosy, vengeful, stingy people.

    I dare say if you're an "outsider" NYC or Boston are far friendlier places than places like Tennessee, Alabama or Mississippi. There, I said it: Manhattanites and Bostonians are friendlier than Southerners!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Beware of Christians? Why?
    Try READING, okay? If you read and understand you'll figure out the topic of discussion. Try www.hop.com - may help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    The word Christians should be in quotes like this "Christians". Spend a month in rural Alabama or Mississippi and it will come to you. In a nutshell, it's an overabundance of petty, cliquish, manipulative, imposing, nosy, vengeful, stingy people.

    I dare say if you're an "outsider" NYC or Boston are far friendlier places than places like Tennessee, Alabama or Mississippi. There, I said it: Manhattanites and Bostonians are friendlier than Southerners!
    I lived in Kentucky for two years. Kentucky is not considered "southern" by deep south southerners, but to me, who grew up in Brooklyn, it was the south.

    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Try READING, okay? If you read and understand you'll figure out the topic of discussion. Try www.hop.com - may help.
    Try being friendly sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Try being friendly sometime.
    Try humility. Wait...you're humanistic, sexist, and oppressive. Humility escapes you.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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