Site tech talk...

[Anton Chigurh]

It's even worse for your smartphone users. http://www.blaze.io/mobile/result/?t...0Z_1PR&src=wpt

[jimnyc]

I will say however that you have one of the best LOOKING vB4 installations I've seen. That's no small feat, considering what you have to work with. Kudos!

The Kudos goes to the gent listed next to the copyright at the bottom, all I did was pay the man! Well, I did tell him what I wanted too, but he turned my thoughts into what you see.

[Anton Chigurh]

Try the one from here - http://www.websitepulse.com/ Go to free tools. Put in the same music thread, and even choose Germany to be the place to test from. MUCH faster results. Not that it should be that much slower, but I noticed the first tool was tested from a DSL line.

I use the IE8 DSL as a baseline. Meehan's tool has many browsers, operating systems, and connections to choose from. It's THE tool for diagnosing site problems.

[Anton Chigurh]

The reason I use Meehan's IE8 DSL as a baseline is, if I can make my stuff load fast on that? I don't have to sweat how it's going to be for people with better browsers and connections.

[jimnyc]

I use the IE8 DSL as a baseline. Meehan's tool has many browsers, operating systems, and connections to choose from. It's THE tool for diagnosing site problems.

I already bookmarked it, I like to have a ton of sites like that, you never know! But the best way to test is to do so from various remote locations. So far I have done 3 more besides the one you tested with and all are similar to websitepulse. If one has a higher latency than the others, it's usually indicative of a specific "issue" between their server and mine. In other words, unfortunately out of my control.

[Anton Chigurh]

Also, look at item 4 of your waterfall. You have a 404 error from some CSS that's expected, but doesn't load for whatever reason: http://www.webpagetest.org/result/12...WBT/1/details/

[Anton Chigurh]

Details on the above:

URL: http://www.debatepolicy.com/clientscript/vbulletin_css/style00019l/vmoods.css,vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css Host: www.debatepolicy.com IP: 69.73.139.27 Location: Fulshear, TX Error/Status Code: 404 Start Offset: 1.180 s DNS Lookup: ms Initial Connection: 98 ms Time to First Byte: 142 ms Content Download: 0 ms Bytes In (downloaded): 0.9 KB Bytes Out (uploaded): 0.5 KB

[Anton Chigurh]

I already bookmarked it, I like to have a ton of sites like that, you never know! But the best way to test is to do so from various remote locations. So far I have done 3 more besides the one you tested with and all are similar to websitepulse. If one has a higher latency than the others, it's usually indicative of a specific "issue" between their server and mine. In other words, unfortunately out of my control.

Scientific method begins with a consistent baseline. If you can make it load fast on the IE8 DSL, it loads faster for everyone.

[jimnyc]

Also, look at item 4 of your waterfall. You have a 404 error from some CSS that's expected, but doesn't load for whatever reason: http://www.webpagetest.org/result/12...WBT/1/details/

Interesting, here is what it's looking for -

http://www.debatepolicy.com/clientscript/vbulletin_css/style00019l/vmoods.css,vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css

Now, I do have the file - vmoods__css_classic_72x15.css

Seems to be a break in the code somewhere, but I have no clue where it's asking for that css file from

[Anton Chigurh]

style00019 is the folder called for. This is coming up because when called, your script is telling the browser to load it. And for some reason, it's not there.

[jimnyc]

style00019 is the folder called for. This is coming up because when called, your script is telling the browser to load it. And for some reason, it's not there.

That's what I mean, if I ftp in, and go to that folder, both those files DO exist in there. Odd.

[Anton Chigurh]

Interesting, here is what it's looking for -

http://www.debatepolicy.com/clientscript/vbulletin_css/style00019l/vmoods.css,vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css

Not Found The requested URL /clientscript/vbulletin_css/style00019l/vmoods.css,vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

[jimnyc]

Not Found The requested URL /clientscript/vbulletin_css/style00019l/vmoods.css,vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

That link is looking for 2 files in one link, is that possible?

vmoods.css
vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css

They both exist, but that link is asking for both, separated by a comma.

[Anton Chigurh]

Not Found The requested URL /clientscript/vbulletin_css/style00019l/vmoods.css,vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

vmoods.css,vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css I suspect the bolded part is the issue. In your script you have that, and I bet the bolded part is in error. The comma tips me off.

[jimnyc]

vmoods.css,vmoods_css_classic_72x15.css I suspect the bolded part is the issue. In your script you have that, and I bet the bolded part is in error. The comma tips me off.

Now I gotta figure out where the hell that is being called from!