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    Default Should expungement laws be changed for domestic violence?

    It seems to make no sense that the breadwinner of a family convicted of domestic violence be sentenced to a lifetime of poverty. I once asked a person giving me a haircut how she got into the profession. Her reply was that her husband couldn't find a job and probably never will find a good job. I asked why. She replied that she and her husband once had a barn burner of a fight and her husband was convicted of domestic violence. Because of HIS conviction, SHE is in a sense sentenced to be the breadwinner for decades to come. What does the Debate Policy team have to say about the above situation?

    Apparently cosmetology is a safe haven for people affected by a criminal record.

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    Who is the Debate Policy team?

    1. You don't know whether the person who gave the haircut was telling you the truth about her husband's record and reason for not having a job.

    2. Do you propose that certain violent crimes be expunged if the criminal has a family?

    3. The woman is "sentenced" to being the breadwinner? Come on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Who is the Debate Policy team?
    Members of this site with a minumum amount of intelligence to understand what Tailfins meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    Members of this site with a minumum amount of intelligence to understand what Tailfins meant.
    Are you implying that asking a question constitutes a lack of intelligence? Is this how you treat new members? No wonder so few people post here.

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    Simply answering your question. Hope the clearification helped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    Simply answering your question. Hope the clearification helped.

    The clarification was helpful, the assumption that my question was unintelligent wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Who is the Debate Policy team?

    1. You don't know whether the person who gave the haircut was telling you the truth about her husband's record and reason for not having a job.

    2. Do you propose that certain violent crimes be expunged if the criminal has a family?

    3. The woman is "sentenced" to being the breadwinner? Come on now.
    1) It was a home salon and I met her husband, my kids played with their kids. He had all kinds of programming books and was able to have an intelligent discussion about multi-tier software architecture. I'm 80% sure they were telling the truth. Even if they weren't there are people out there with that same problem. Read prison blogs if you want more examples.

    2) I support the pre-1998 policy of criminal record reporting being subject to a seven year limit.

    3) That whole family was living in poverty. It was believable that she wouldn't be spending her days giving $8 haircuts if her husband was bringing home a paycheck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    1) It was a home salon and I met her husband, my kids played with their kids. He had all kinds of programming books and was able to have an intelligent discussion about multi-tier software architecture. I'm 80% sure they were telling the truth. Even if they weren't there are people out there with that same problem. Read prison blogs if you want more examples.

    2) I support the pre-1998 policy of criminal record reporting being subject to a seven year limit

    3) That whole family was living in poverty. It was believable that should wouldn't be spending her days giving $8 haircuts if her husband was bringing home a paycheck.

    What should this woman be doing? Not working?

    I'm all for giving people who've made mistakes second chances. My guess is this guy could do SOME kind of work if he really wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    The clarification was helpful, the assumption that my question was unintelligent wasn't.
    Wonderful, I am glad I was helpful.

    Tailfins, sorry to interupt the thread. Back to topic.

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    Your question is should expungement laws be changed for domestic violence?

    Why just for domestic violence? Is domestic violence a "lesser" violent crime than other violent crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    The clarification was helpful, the assumption that my question was unintelligent wasn't.
    I don't think it was an assumption...
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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