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    Default Florida prosecutors will charge Zimmerman, hold trial

    With the evidence they found at the scene, and witnesses that came forward as soon as the cops showed up, the cops decided there wasn't enough evidence of Zimmerman committing a crime, to even arrest the man, much less charge him with anything.

    Nonetheless, the case has been so amazingly politicized , distorted, and lied about, by people up to and including the President of the United States, that I would now like to see Zimmerman brought to trial and ALL the evidence, including all the witnesses, the cops' testimony, and everything else, brought out and made public under oath.

    Did Zimmerman "stalk" Trayvon? Did Z attack him? Let's see what's brought out in court.

    Did Trayvon attack Zimmerman, knock him down, and beat him? Let's see what's brought out in court.

    The country has been so (carefully and deliberately) riled and inflamed, that full public hearings are the only way I can see, to clear the air.

    Not sure what Zimmerman can be charged with. Murder? Manslaughter? Discharging a firearm in city limits? Messing up the grass near a public sidewalk with the back of his head?

    But full PUBLIC hearings, televised, should be held; all evidence and testimony made public; and a verdict rendered by a jury of his peers.

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    George Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin shooting, official says

    By Sari Horwitz
    April 11, 2012

    Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

    It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face.

    Martin, 17 and unarmed, was shot and killed Feb. 26 by Zimmerman, who said he was acting in self-defense. Police in Sanford, Fla., where the shooting took place, did not charge Zimmerman, citing the state’s “stand your ground” law.

    Corey told reporters Tuesday night that she would hold a news conference about the case within 72 hours. A news release from her office said the event will be held in Sanford or Jacksonville, Fla.
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    Default Official: Charges coming in Trayvon Martin death

    Apparently there will be a news conference this evening where they will announce what charges they will be bringing against George Zimmerman, and obviously they plan on arresting him as well. They said they know his location. Will be interesting to see what charges they go forward with, and just what type of chaos is going to ensue when this trial takes off. Maybe they'll release more information that might not be currently available to the public? I still don't see a conviction based on the facts, but the outrage in the media ensured this was going to court one way or another.

    SANFORD, Fla. (AP) — A law enforcement official says that charges are being filed in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

    The official with knowledge of the investigation says a prosecutor will announce charges against George Zimmerman on Wednesday at 6 p.m. Zimmerman's arrest is also expected soon.

    The official didn't know the charge and spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to release the information. The official said that authorities know where Zimmerman is.
    http://news.yahoo.com/official-charg...184138994.html
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    Merged my thread over, LA beat me to the punch.
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    His(Zimmermans)Lawyers are PUNKS & they broke Client /Atty priviledge ( They should be disbar-ed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    But full PUBLIC hearings, televised, should be held; all evidence and testimony made public; and a verdict rendered by a jury of his peers.
    Couldn't agree more. If evidence comes out that proves Zimm's guilt, then I hope they convict him. If the evidence given supports his self defense claim, then I hope they do the right thing. This should be tried based on the law, the facts of the case and the evidence. Will be an interesting case to watch. And now that Zimmerman's attorneys have dropped off the case yesterday, he better retain a damn good one, and quickly!
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    Keep your eyes peeled for a white Bronco driving erratically on the freeway.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    And after he's exonerated he should sue the shit out of the NBC, the panthers, the city, the state and the white house.
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    Curiouser and curiouser...

    Why Nothing Sticks to George Zimmerman

    Had Zimmerman’s narrative and recounting of the details of that evening been any less than 100% consistent, that’s the moment when everything would have fallen apart for him — sometime right around February 27th. The police had every reason and opportunity to document and doggedly pursue any differences they saw between Zimmerman’s initial interview and his video re-enactment the following day.
    Evidence that Trayvon Martin Doubled Back
    As we can see, it appears unlikely that Zimmerman ever “chased down” Martin. Zimmerman only pursued long enough to maintain visual contact to see what direction Trayvon was going.Zimmerman traveled his entire route in around 30 seconds, he only went a very short distance and did so specifically to tell the 911 dispatcher where Trayvon had gone.
    It wasn’t until a minute later that their altercation took place, when Martin apparently doubled back to confront Zimmerman.
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    Zimmerman has been charged with 2nd degree murder. I think they had a better chance of proving involuntary manslaughter, but this will be interesting.

    http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-mu...214123361.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Zimmerman has been charged with 2nd degree murder. I think they had a better chance of proving involuntary manslaughter, but this will be interesting.

    http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-mu...214123361.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Zimmerman has been charged with 2nd degree murder. I think they had a better chance of proving involuntary manslaughter,
    ....which might be exactly whay they chose the Murder charge... gives him a better chance of being found Not Guilty once all the evidence is publicly aired?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    ....which might be exactly whay they chose the Murder charge... gives him a better chance of being found Not Guilty once all the evidence is publicly aired?
    Wow, how Machiavellian this post! I never thought of that. Seriously, from what I've read over time, I don't know that manslaughter would be proven.

    I think Zimmerman contributed to the loss of life, though his shooting seems not to have been excessive.

    It really should be not be tried in the media, which is all we have and have all been commenting on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Zimmerman has been charged with 2nd degree murder. I think they had a better chance of proving involuntary manslaughter, but this will be interesting.

    http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-mu...214123361.html

    But then none of us know just what evidence they have and won't until trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    ....which might be exactly whay they chose the Murder charge... gives him a better chance of being found Not Guilty once all the evidence is publicly aired?
    They won't discuss the discovery process until the defense asks for it, according to the special prosecutor. So who knows what else they may know that we don't. But IMO, a plain old self defense claim would protect him in this case. Other than rhetoric, I've yet to see anything to suggest that Zimmerman WASNT defending himself or thought his life was in danger. All the rhetoric in the world, the assumptions and monday morning QB'n won't matter - it's going to be what they can prove. We have one eyewitness that we're aware of, and his story supports Zimmerman. We have another witness who heard screams, and didn't think it was that of Zimmerman. And then we have the forensics of the case, and by that I mean what paramedics saw and other on scene responders. And does a thorough investigation support that Zimmerman was getting pummeled as he claims.

    I'm obviously not an attorney, and don't even know shit about this defense to be honest. I've always been under the impression that the prosecution must prove it's crime. So I'm assuming Zimmerman doesn't even need to prove it was self defense, just make the claim, and then the state must prove otherwise. That being the case, and with the details that we all know at this moment, I don't see how they can prove murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    But then none of us know just what evidence they have and won't until trail.
    Yep, no doubt, it'll be interesting watching this unfold.
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