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    Bargain for gas today! Last week it was at $4.59. Funny thing, on futures it's at over $102. barrel. Go figure.


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    3.65 where I am presently but it's time to walk, bike and seek alternative transportation. Also wear cotton instead of synthetics and avoid over wrapped oil produced plastic packaging and items if possible. Join an alternative to your own electric "grid" by installing a few solar panels (you can get some cheap ones at an auto parts store) every little bit helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    3.65 where I am presently but it's time to walk, bike and seek alternative transportation. Also wear cotton instead of synthetics and avoid over wrapped oil produced plastic packaging and items if possible. Join an alternative to your own electric "grid" by installing a few solar panels (you can get some cheap ones at an auto parts store) every little bit helps.
    Good on ya walking/ biking; same thing for combining trips, carpooling etc. Mobile demand (autos+trucks), along with heating fuel have the most significant demand on oil. The price of oil doesn't have much impact on the cost of electricity; electricity is mostly sourced from natgas and coal. As for solar, every little bit does help, but there's a simple economic reason we don't have bucket brigades for fire-fighting-- Bang for the buck, cfls and automatic-off switches payback in months, not years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    3.65 where I am presently but it's time to walk, bike and seek alternative transportation. Also wear cotton instead of synthetics and avoid over wrapped oil produced plastic packaging and items if possible. Join an alternative to your own electric "grid" by installing a few solar panels (you can get some cheap ones at an auto parts store) every little bit helps.
    It's time to take on a extra part-time project to compensate for lost purchasing power. I'm not interested in letting B-HO and his policies rain on my parade. I will be driving about 4,000 miles on vacation this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Bargain for gas today! Last week it was at $4.59. Funny thing, on futures it's at over $102. barrel. Go figure.
    Wow, $4.59, you got NY beat, at least if that's regular. Gassed up last night and it was at $4.29 for the regular, and I "think" it was $4.49 for premium.

    Was it really $1.80 when Bush left office as the Obama haters are saying? Damn, that feels like a LONG time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Wow, $4.59, you got NY beat, at least if that's regular. Gassed up last night and it was at $4.29 for the regular, and I "think" it was $4.49 for premium.

    Was it really $1.80 when Bush left office as the Obama haters are saying? Damn, that feels like a LONG time ago.
    Price of gas here has been competing with CA on highest in country. Now yesterday it WAS $3.99 which seems lower than NY's? LOL! IL has all sorts of 'special blends' that jack up the prices.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    It's time to take on a extra part-time project to compensate for lost purchasing power. I'm not interested in letting B-HO and his policies rain on my parade. I will be driving about 4,000 miles on vacation this year.
    What does BHO have to do with the price of gas or tea in China for that matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    What does BHO have to do with the price of gas or tea in China for that matter?
    Blame Bush !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Monroe View Post
    Blame Bush !
    The only thing we could blame either for would be not setting a good energy policy and that is the fault of lobbied congress as much as anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    The only thing we could blame either for would be not setting a good energy policy and that is the fault of lobbied congress as much as anything.
    How so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    How so?
    No mention of the lack of support that should have been pushed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    What does BHO have to do with the price of gas or tea in China for that matter?
    There are FOUR IMMEDIATE THINGS Obama can do to take at LEAST a dollar off the price of gasoline per gallon right away:

    1.) Eliminate all the different blends and formulas. We really do NOT need 100 blends for regular unleaded gasoline. Just ease that regulation for a year. Come up with ONE intermediate formula to be used nationwide.

    2.) Suspend the federal tax at the pump, which is running about 19 cents per gallon. Just end it for a year to start off.

    3.) END the ethanol boondoggle. Cease the requirement for ethanol in gasoline. It doesn't help the environment, it doesn't save gasoline because you have to have a heavier foot to get the same performance than you would have with just straight gasoline, and it ADDS TO THE COST AT THE PUMP!. People would end up using less gas as well!

    4.) Yes, DRILL! Stop stonewalling permits and take down the rest of the barriers to production your administration has erected! Announce that domestic production is a high priority and ease these restrictions, approve the Keystone pipeline and open up ANWR for production, and the price of crude drops immediately on the world market because it will scare the hell out of the speculators! Works every time it's tried, hell it even worked when YOU did it in 2010, announcing your partnership with other countries to release more oil from the strategic reserve. Oil prices TUMBLED immediately.

    Of course, the Obama administration will do none of this. Because the EnviroNazis would go absolutely NUTS and it's re-election time. And because high gasoline prices is what the left WANTS. Read Al Gore's book, "Earth in the Balance" for crikey sakes - everything we are seeing today is IN that book. The stated goal even then was $5/gallon gasoline! The blueprint for artificially inflating the cost of fossil fuels was LAID OUT in that book!


    85% of the price per gallon of gasoline at the pump is:

    • The cost of crude oil (Which is TAXED as produced or imported)
    • The cost of refining (Which, every gallon produced is TAXED when sold, and onerous regulation and formulation requirements greatly drives up the costs)
    • The cost of distribution (The trucking companies that deliver gasoline to the retail outlets. They are TAXED as well, at point of sale)
    • Direct Taxation (Local, State and federal TAXES at the pump, the consumer pays)


    It's the TAXATION and OVER REGULATION that accounts for more than half of what we pay at the pump!

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    The cost driver for gas is the price of crude:


    Exactly when did oil prices tumble in 2010?



    The unfortunate reality is that the Federal Reserve is the true cost driver for gas prices. They have done an abhorrent job at managing the money supply since about 2003.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    The cost driver for gas is the price of crude:

    Exactly when did oil prices tumble in 2010?

    The unfortunate reality is that the Federal Reserve is the true cost driver for gas prices. They have done an abhorrent job at managing the money supply since about 2003.
    Yes, because even right now when you adjust for inflation overall and de-flation of the dollar, gasoline is still cheaper today than it was in 1980.

    Constantly printing more and more money to try to offset and cheapen the debt is one of the big reasons oil futures are out of control.

    Your price of oil chart isn't the figure I was talking, I was talking about the futures market, which did tumble on the threat of billions of gallons of crude flooding the market. And it does, every time that is even mentioned.

    Obama won't do anything resembling that right now because he has a small, but loud, shrill and important voting bloc to keep in line for November - the EnviroNazis.
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