Starbucks and Guns

[Wind Song]

I just identified your tag line for this, and probably other, threads. How did "Skittles and iced tea" work for you last time?

Oh yes, lets hang out at Starbucks with 25 George Zimmerman types looking for "suspicious" people. What you've got going on in Starbucks is a group people coming in carrying weapons for political reasons.

Why is it these "open carry" demonstrations don't happen in crime infested neighborhoods? Why make a point out of scaring people in neighborhoods where there isn't any crime?

Starbucks in Seattle was asked about about its policy on guns. They let guns in, but camcorders weren't allowed in. Does that make sense?

[DragonStryk72]

I work with domestic violence victims. Fatality increases exponentially in DV homes with guns. I know too many scary dudes with guns. The last thing I need to do on a break is to walk into a coffee shop filled with armed strangers.

Gun owners aren't content to own lethal weapons, keep them at home or in their cars. Now they want to parade around EVERYWHERE and be in EVERY public place. I object.

Wait, wait wait, hold on: You're saying that people who beat their spouses like weapons? OH MY GOD!!!!! Stop the presses, we've finally cracked this sucker! Of course, that means any buddhist training in the martial arts, even Aikido, has to be arrested for the weapons that go with that training, since clearly, only abusers and murderers carry weapons.

Yeah, so clearly we've all already been wiped out by the rampant gun owners of the world, and the crossbowmen before them, and the bowmen before those guys, and the slingers before that.

Clearly everyone who owns guns are mass murdering everyone every day.

Oh, not wait, they're human beings, too. you just refuse to treat them as such.

[ConHog]

Ive learned two things in this thread

Jim has obviously seen the error of his ways and is noe pro gsy marriage

Sky is a lost cause and i made a mistake in thinking differently before now

[fj1200]

Guns in Starbucks is the topic. It's a great topic. I wish you'd stick to it, Jim. I'm sure you can find some other "queer" to flamebait.

Meh, it was a 3 page topic at best except for you ignoring any evidence to the contrary of your feelings and constantly harping on your talking point list. There are two issues IMO, 1. Open carry laws, and 2. Private Property rights. Can you set your hyperbole aside for awhile?

[ConHog]

I work with domestic violence victims. Fatality increases exponentially in DV homes with guns. I know too many scary dudes with guns. The last thing I need to do on a break is to walk into a coffee shop filled with armed strangers.

Gun owners aren't content to own lethal weapons, keep them at home or in their cars. Now they want to parade around EVERYWHERE and be in EVERY public place. I object.

I am aghast that you refuse to recognize your own hypocrisy here. Just unbelievable

[Wind Song]

I am aghast that you refuse to recognize your own hypocrisy here. Just unbelievable

The whole point of open carry law is for gun owners to go wherever they choose with their lethal weapons.

[Wind Song]

Meh, it was a 3 page topic at best except for you ignoring any evidence to the contrary of your feelings and constantly harping on your talking point list. There are two issues IMO, 1. Open carry laws, and 2. Private Property rights. Can you set your hyperbole aside for awhile?

Right. Starbucks supports open carry in their stores. It's completely inappropriate for gun owners to pack weapons in a cafe. They should leave their guns home or safely stored in their cars.

[Wind Song]

Ive learned two things in this thread

Jim has obviously seen the error of his ways and is noe pro gsy marriage

Sky is a lost cause and i made a mistake in thinking differently before now

I've learned that you aren't interested in discussing the thread topic.

[Wind Song]

"Gun owners have responded to a boycott of Starbucks locations by a gun victims advocacy group by encouraging large turnouts to the coffee chain and the "open carry" of weapons in those states that allow it."

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...carry-violence

What's the point? Intimidate people who have already suffered from gun violence? My heart will always go out in support of victims of violence and their causes.

[fj1200]

Oh yes, lets hang out at Starbucks with 25 George Zimmerman types looking for "suspicious" people. What you've got going on in Starbucks is a group people coming in carrying weapons for political reasons.

Why is it these "open carry" demonstrations don't happen in crime infested neighborhoods? Why make a point out of scaring people in neighborhoods where there isn't any crime?

Starbucks in Seattle was asked about about its policy on guns. They let guns in, but camcorders weren't allowed in. Does that make sense?

Yes, it does make sense.

Right. Starbucks supports open carry in their stores. It's completely inappropriate for gun owners to pack weapons in a cafe. They should leave their guns home or safely stored in their cars.

No it's not.

I've learned that you aren't interested in discussing the thread topic.

You've stopped discussing the topic pages ago. Fingers in ears is not an effective debating technique.

"Gun owners have responded to a boycott of Starbucks locations by a gun victims advocacy group by encouraging large turnouts to the coffee chain and the "open carry" of weapons in those states that allow it."

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...carry-violence

What's the point? Intimidate people who have already suffered from gun violence?

No, they're hoping they can plink off a few idiots. Never mind, that would be illegal.

[ConHog]

Sky i think u should at this point be banned from your own thread. Discussing why youre okay with taking away the right of those uou dont like while at the same time demanding rights for people you do like is not derailing the thread

[Wind Song]

Tampa officials prepping for this summer's Republican convention want to set up a "clean zone" where protesters will be forbidden to wield water or air pistols, plastic or metal pipe, or wood longer than a ruler - but guns, thanks to Florida's loopy laws, are fine by them.

[Wind Song]

Sky i think u should at this point be banned from your own thread. Discussing why youre okay with taking away the right of those uou dont like while at the same time demanding rights for people you do like is not derailing the thread

Conhog--

Last time I checked you weren't a mod.

Report me to the mods if you're so disturbed.

[Wind Song]

Yes, it does make sense.



No it's not.



You've stopped discussing the topic pages ago. Fingers in ears is not an effective debating technique.



No, they're hoping they can plink off a few idiots. Never mind, that would be illegal.

Starbucks allows lethal weapons in their stores but not the camcorders that take pictures of them. Tell me why it makes sense to you and is a good idea.

Are you demanding that I agree with your views? Why? Debate involves differences of opinion and the reasons we hold the opinions. That's what I've done all the way through this thread.

Since I'm the only person AGAINST Starbucks allowing guns in their stores, it makes sense that I would stick to my position. Sounds like only ONE view is allowed here and it's PRO_GUN.

[ConHog]

Starbucks allows lethal weapons in their stores but not the camcorders that take pictures of them. Tell me why it makes sense to you and is a good idea.

Are you demanding that I agree with your views? Why? Debate involves differences of opinion and the reasons we hold the opinions. That's what I've done all the way through this thread.

Since I'm the only person AGAINST Starbucks allowing guns in their stores, it makes sense that I would stick to my position. Sounds like only ONE view is allowed here and it's PRO_GUN.

It maks sense bc its their god damned business and they should be the ones deciding what they let in the door.

When you are forced to go into starbucks then you will have a beef until then just shut up drama queen