Objective learning, religious style.

[Noir]

Got this from a friend of a friend, is this not the most unbias and unweighted question you have ever read?



Now i understand that most Catholics (and most people here, including myself) are anti-abortion in most cases, and i know very little of Planned Parenthood, however, this is not schooling, there is not room to research and explore you own answer. You are told what you must conclude and the whole essay is geared towards that conclusion.

I'm assuming the answer will be 'don't like it, don't go to a catholic school', but that isn't addressing the actual problem IMO.

[BDBoop]

Oh, truly it is.

Frankly, I can't wait to find out what all the repercussions will be from this non-existent battle.

[DragonStryk72]

Got this from a friend of a friend, is this not the most unbias and unweighted question you have ever read?



Now i understand that most Catholics (and most people here, including myself) are anti-abortion in most cases, and i know very little of Planned Parenthood, however, this is not schooling, there is not room to research and explore you own answer. You are told what you must conclude and the whole essay is geared towards that conclusion.

I'm assuming the answer will be 'don't like it, don't go to a catholic school', but that isn't addressing the actual problem IMO.

Now, I am pro-life, but yeah, this essay is horrible. I actually went to Catholic school growing up, and I'm thankful to say that they never felt a need to pull this sort of crap on us. Certainly, they were pro-Jesus, but they never let it get in the way of teaching, and letting us come to our own understanding of the world.

Both sides of the fence pull this though, and that's what sucks. Any time where you are telling someone what their personal opinion is supposed to be, and lay out how they're supposed to answer in support of that opinion, you've stopped teaching and start proselytizing, whatever belief it might be that you're putting out.

[Wind Song]

I'm personally against abortion for religious reasons, but politically pro-life. I think the person who has the uterus ultimately has the decision of whether to carry or terminate the pregnancy.

[fj1200]

I'm personally against abortion for religious reasons, but politically pro-life. I think the person who has the uterus ultimately has the decision of whether to carry or terminate the pregnancy.

So the fetus is property?

[Wind Song]

So the fetus is property?

The uterus is the property of the woman. The woman matters. She is the owner of her body.

[fj1200]

The uterus is the property of the woman. The woman matters. She is the owner of her body.

She engaged in a contractual relationship that had the potential of creating a tenant in her property. You avoided the question; a fetus is property?

[BDBoop]

So. She shouldn't have had sex?

[fj1200]

So. She shouldn't have had sex?

Is that your view and solution to the abortion dilemma?

[BDBoop]

No. But then I've spent the past few months explaining that women have reproductive rights over their bodies, and there shouldn't be a penalty or punishment for getting laid.

[fj1200]

No. But then I've spent the past few months explaining that women have reproductive rights over their bodies, and there shouldn't be a penalty or punishment for getting laid.

Who said that they didn't? So you seem to fall into the fetus as property argument because the penalty seems to lie with the fetus if her actions led to its "creation."

[Noir]

No. But then I've spent the past few months explaining that women have reproductive rights over their bodies, and there shouldn't be a penalty or punishment for getting laid.

Getting pregnant is not a penalty or a punishment.

[Wind Song]

She engaged in a contractual relationship that had the potential of creating a tenant in her property. You avoided the question; a fetus is property?

Hardly. Many women get pregnant inspite of trying hard not to.

The uterus is the property of the woman. She determines whether to continue the pregnancy or terminate it. Forcing a woman to carry the pregnancy to term against her will is a violation of her human rights.

[fj1200]

Getting pregnant is not a penalty or a punishment.

Right, it's a possible outcome.

[DragonStryk72]

Okay, guys, this wasn't actually about abortion here. WS doesn't have to defend that point here. Noir posted about an essay, so let's try to stay on topic here.