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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Hardly. Many women get pregnant inspite of trying hard not to.
    So they clearly know what could happen when having sex right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    The uterus is the property of the woman. She determines whether to continue the pregnancy or terminate it. Forcing a woman to carry the pregnancy to term against her will is a violation of her human rights.
    A natural function of life is not a violation of her "human rights" as she didn't have sex against her will and according to you they are aware of what could happen. So again, you believe a fetus is property? And what of the human rights of the fetus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    So. She shouldn't have had sex?
    That's usually the answer the right wing has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    That's usually the answer the right wing has.
    Wasn't that you getting butt hurt over my "translation"? Now you get to create positions for those who don't share your opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So they clearly know what could happen when having sex right?



    A natural function of life is not a violation of her "human rights" as she didn't have sex against her will and according to you they are aware of what could happen. So again, you believe a fetus is property? And what of the human rights of the fetus?
    Yes, of course. That's one reason it is legal to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

    The woman has the legal right to determine if she wants to continue the pregnancy or not. Making this decision illegal has NEVER stopped women from making this choice.

    Who should decide? The woman or the government/right wing christians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Wasn't that you getting butt hurt over my "translation"? Now you get to create positions for those who don't share your opinion?

    First, what the hell is it with that term, "butt hurt"? What on earth do you mean?

    You make your own position. You're stuck with it, not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Yes, of course. That's one reason it is legal to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

    The woman has the legal right to determine if she wants to continue the pregnancy or not. Making this decision illegal has NEVER stopped women from making this choice.

    Who should decide? The woman or the government/right wing christians?
    Finally you answer one question. So now, what of the human rights of the fetus? And yes, society, via government, generally is the entity that protects the life, liberty, and property of its citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    First, what the hell is it with that term, "butt hurt"? What on earth do you mean?

    You make your own position. You're stuck with it, not me.
    Butt hurt. It's just a saying lighten up.

    And that is not my position and you taking the easy way out of creating it for me does your position no good. You'd do far better to address my positions as I bring them up, not piggy back on another poster's attempt to create one for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    Okay, guys, this wasn't actually about abortion here. WS doesn't have to defend that point here. Noir posted about an essay, so let's try to stay on topic here.
    Okay. I will not respond to any previous posts responding to my OT post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Finally you answer one question. So now, what of the human rights of the fetus? And yes, society, via government, generally is the entity that protects the life, liberty, and property of its citizens.
    The fetus doesn't have rights, unless the pregnant woman grants them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Okay. I will not respond to any previous posts responding to my OT post.
    Oh ignore him, it's a logical extension of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    The fetus doesn't have rights, unless the pregnant woman grants them.
    Why is it not entitled to the same rights that you have? When is it entitled to the same rights that you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    The fetus doesn't have rights, unless the pregnant woman grants them.
    Rights are God given. Therefore, if there is no God there are no rights. Your position has no basis. If a woman can treat an unborn child as someone with no rights, the government can treat women as someone with no rights. In your world the father has no rights, just obligations. I can tolerate gays, communists, drug addicts, felons, hippies, etc. However, I want nothing to do with a woman that can kill a baby. She is no better than Richard Allen Davis, the killer of Polly Klaas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Oh ignore him, it's a logical extension of the thread.

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    lol, it's not even about the abortion thing, but about the teacher obviously telling them what their opinion is. Imagine that the question held the opposite opinion, that abortion was totally correct, and that we should write an essay on why those who are pro-life are entirely wrong.

    Teachers have a lot of pull, and when they use their influence for things like this, it's just plain wrong.
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    ^I don't disagree with you but we also don't know what the class was. That would have some bearing IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Oh ignore him, it's a logical extension of the thread.

    @ DS
    He's not a mod? Well then wtf?

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