Objective learning, religious style.

[PostmodernProphet]

What if we started over?

You stop calling me stupid and I'll stop springing dumb liberal jokes on you?

only if I can keep calling liberals stupid.....that's a hurdle I cannot leap.....

[Wind Song]

yes, I know.....perhaps you will have noticed that just as you have tried to frame the issue of abortion in terms of only the first day, I in turn have framed it in terms of the last day......hopefully, doing so has made you realize that the real problem lies in the other 8 months and 28 days.....if not, I will make a bargain with you......I will allow you to abort as many unborn children as you wish within the first 24 hours following sex so long as you agree to refrain from killing any starting with the second day.....




speaking only for myself, no....I could never be a close friend with anyone who advocated the continuance of legal abortion.....I'm sorry, I just cannot accept the possibility of any humanity in any such person.....

I see. Well, there is no point in talking then. You aren't interested in being friends inspite of our differences.

BTW. I don't advocate the continuance of legal abortion. I accept that women have and will always exercise that option and I'd prefer women at least have medically safe procedures.

Take care, it's been interesting meeting you. Perhaps if you ever discuss other topics we may one day find common ground.

[PostmodernProphet]

I see. Well, there is no point in talking then. You aren't interested in being friends inspite of our differences.

BTW. I don't advocate the continuance of legal abortion. I accept that women have and will always exercise that option and I'd prefer women at least have medically safe procedures.

Take care, it's been interesting meeting you. Perhaps if you ever discuss other topics we may one day find common ground.

perhaps I didn't get the message that you wanted to be friends what with all the "you're a fanatic", "you're the Taliban", "you're a hater", "you think you own women", "you just want women to have babies against their will", "you think you're God", "he's a holy saint" rhetoric....

[PostmodernProphet]

BTW. I don't advocate the continuance of legal abortion.

so, now you're saying you are favor of ending legal abortion?......

[Wind Song]

perhaps I didn't get the message that you wanted to be friends what with all the "you're a fanatic", "you're the Taliban", "you're a hater", "you think you own women", "you just want women to have babies against their will", "you think you're God", "he's a holy saint" rhetoric....

Yes, I said all those things and I've been paying for it all day.

Sounds like if it's up to you, I'd get a life sentence for it.

[PostmodernProphet]

Sounds like if it's up to you, I'd get a life sentence for it.

well, I don't believe in the death penalty......I read a story years ago about a woman in Texas who became a Christian after 24 years on death row and thought, "if the death penalty had been carried out right away she would have spent eternity in hell".....now I'm against the death penalty.........so I guess I need to give you time to repent as well.....you will, of course, have to repent....{especially that part where you called me a fundamentalist}........

[Wind Song]

well, I don't believe in the death penalty......I read a story years ago about a woman in Texas who became a Christian after 24 years on death row and thought, "if the death penalty had been carried out right away she would have spent eternity in hell.....now I'm against the death penalty.........so I guess I need to give you time to repent as well.....you will, of course, have to repent....{especially that part where you called me a fundamentalist}........

Would you like me to tell you stories of death row inmates who've become Buddhist?

Sorry hon. I don't do "repentance".

I do admit a mistake, regretting it, vowing not to do it again and bringing the light in.

Judgement is YOUR path, not mine.

[PostmodernProphet]

Judgement is YOUR path, not mine.

I offered you a chance, you insult me again....

[Wind Song]

I offered you a chance, you insult me again....

I'm sorry. How is that an insult? Isn't it true?

Isn't your path one about judgment? Who's "worthy" and who isn't?

The "good" babies deserve to live and the "bad" women deserve to die in unsafe abortions?

[PostmodernProphet]

ignored....

[Kathianne]

CH has been interjecting himself, under the guise of 'helping' he's preventing some from making ties that might at least lead to meaningful discussion.

Try folks, ignore when appropriate.

[Wind Song]

Bad and good, right and wrong. That's the judgmental path. Moral absolutism is my way or the highway. No shades of gray, everything black and white.

You can't be friends with someone who has a different spiritual view than you have.

I know many wonderful Christians and they completely respect and accept our differences.

[Kathianne]

Bad and good, right and wrong. That's the judgmental path.

Yep, truth there, one never knows.

I do know though I didn't call him or anyone else names. He's posted anti-ageism and the term 'skank', sounds derogatory to me. You?

[fj1200]

Here's what I've learned about you from this post.

1. You call anyone who is "pro-choice" a "pro-abortion" folk. That isn't true.
2. Overturning Roe will not limit the number of abortions that are performed. What will happen is they will all go underground, and women will have unsafe procedures.
3. You mock other religions position without trying to understand what it means to not be a moral absolutist. You demand respect for the anti-choice side and you have zero respect for opponents.
4. You have incorrectly stated my position. Of course there is human potential in a human fetus.
5. I don't know what you're talking about in the life is greater than convenience argument. It's a position I find untenable.


What's the deal around this place? No one values a woman enough to think she has a right to determine what happens to her own body?

You haven't learned those things about me:
1. Not true, I used "pro-abortion" in response to your hyperbole.
2. Not true, overturning Roe puts the decisions at the state level. Do you really think every state is going to outlaw abortion?
3. Not true, everyone will be able to voice their religious conscience when the states create their own rules for abortion.
4. Not true, I understand your position completely.
5. That was your characterization of PMP's position.

The deal around this place? We feel that women are wise enough to make proper decisions when the full ramifications of their, and their partner's, actions are taken into account.

[fj1200]

The morning after pill isn't murder.

I predict that it would receive 80+% approval by voters. So enough with the ridiculous statements.