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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    lol, it's not even about the abortion thing, but about the teacher obviously telling them what their opinion is. Imagine that the question held the opposite opinion, that abortion was totally correct, and that we should write an essay on why those who are pro-life are entirely wrong.

    Teachers have a lot of pull, and when they use their influence for things like this, it's just plain wrong.
    Then we would have been discussing "PUBLIC" school instead of a private one....... That is their position on most things involving PP....

    I am curous WS like FJ asked "when does a fetus gain rights" At what point does it become a person???
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Why is it not entitled to the same rights that you have? When is it entitled to the same rights that you have?
    When it can survive independent of her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    When it can survive independent of her.
    False argument,
    ALL infants and most small children CAN NOT survive without the help of adults or others.. So Try again!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Then we would have been discussing "PUBLIC" school instead of a private one....... That is their position on most things involving PP....

    I am curous WS like FJ asked "when does a fetus gain rights" At what point does it become a person???
    Why would it have to be a public school?
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    False argument,
    ALL infants and most small children CAN NOT survive without the help of adults or others.. So Try again!!!
    "Other adults." Exactly. Not the one it's busy sucking the life out of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    "Other adults." Exactly. Not the one it's busy sucking the life out of.
    That is wonderfully poor "quoting"
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Okay, there's a quoting rule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    "Other adults." Exactly. Not the one it's busy sucking the life out of.
    I would have said "mother" however that would mean they delivered the baby plus there is usualy a father involved!!!!

    Quit being obtuse you know EXACTLY what and who I was refering to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Why would it have to be a public school?
    Because here in the US that is the standard take on reproductive rights in the public schools. it is the womens decision only and they have the right to end a pregnancy for whatever reason and can use it as birth control... If they were going to teach anything religous in nature it would be deemed illegal what with the whole fallacy of "seperation of church and state".. Just saying!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Okay, there's a quoting rule?
    Well, no, its not a rule, but there should be an understanding that when someone says "adults or others" that does not mean "other adults".
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Because here in the US that is the standard take on reproductive rights in the public schools. it is the womens decision only and they have the right to end a pregnancy for whatever reason and can use it as birth control... If they were going to teach anything religous in nature it would be deemed illegal what with the whole fallacy of "seperation of church and state".. Just saying!!!
    I'm quite sure there are secular private schools too, and even if there are not, its easy to hypothesise their existence, and whether or not a similarly asked, but inverted, question in the OP would be regarded as eduction, or propaganda.
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Hardly. Many women get pregnant inspite of trying hard not to.

    The uterus is the property of the woman. She determines whether to continue the pregnancy or terminate it. Forcing a woman to carry the pregnancy to term against her will is a violation of her human rights.
    Carrying a fetus is in fact the raison d'etre for having a uterus in the first place. Having a uterus in one's body is hardly a reason to justify killing the very thing it exists to support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    When it can survive independent of her.
    Why does the fetus deserve rights based on the answer to a question that is, in part, based on technological advancement? In other words, why the difference in rights between month 3 and month 8?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Why is it not entitled to the same rights that you have? When is it entitled to the same rights that you have?
    Because we haven't assigned it status as a "person" owed rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Hardly. Many women get pregnant inspite of trying hard not to.

    The uterus is the property of the woman. She determines whether to continue the pregnancy or terminate it. Forcing a woman to carry the pregnancy to term against her will is a violation of her human rights.
    And it takes TWO to get to the point of giving birth or terminating. I think there should be recourse for the man in the relationship. And no, not stamping on women or trumping men - just stating that as of right now men get screwed, excuse the pun. If the woman wants to terminate, the man has no say. If the woman wants to keep the baby, man has no say, but will be just as liable for 18yrs. I understand that it's the woman's body we're discussing, but both involved in creating life should have equal say.
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