Sometimes there are no words.

[Noir]

Poor critters.

[logroller]

Tasty!

[ConHog]

Poor critters.

You're a carnivoreaphobe.

[Noir]

Tasty!

*so* witty, never heard this before.

[logroller]

*so* witty, never heard this before.

The shows not over yet, quit her heckling
Would 'medium-rare' count as one word or two?

[darin]

I encourage folks to get on the Youtube and find Food, Inc. Eye-opening.

[revelarts]

Eating meat is one thing, being inhumane to animals do to it wrong. killing and animals quickly is proper. This other is just wrong.

[Noir]

Eating meat is one thing, being inhumane to animals do to it wrong. killing and animals quickly is proper. This other is just wrong.

Exactly, a UK group that I volunteer for, Animal Aid, is trying to get a bill raised in parliament that requires all slaughterhouses to have CCTV in operation on the killing floor, which can be reviewed by groups like AniAid, after a three year investagation in 9 slaughter houses they found 8 to be in serious breech of animal rights, the workers were kicking, spitting on, urinating etc on the animals.

Two workers were arrested after kicking a pig to death, but the response from the slaughte house industry has been less than inspiring, rather than seein what has happened and agreeing to voluntarily put CCTV inside the building, several of them have now installed new CCTV outside their buildings...this is nothing tto do with meat eating, it's aanimal suffering, regardless of whetger or not someone eats meat they'd have to be something verging on sick to regard is treatment of animals to be fine.

[Noir]

I encourage folks to get on the Youtube and find Food, Inc. Eye-opening.

+1, a must watch.

[logroller]

Eating meat is one thing, being inhumane to animals do to it wrong. killing and animals quickly is proper. This other is just wrong.

I get there are differences. But the USDA, iirc, allows a 5 percent failure rate for swift kill. You see a video with back to back failures with some statistic listing any number of these occurrences, failing to mention the tens of thousands of humane kills. Its disingenuous IMO.

Not to mention, I'll accept critical analysis on this subject with grain of salt from anyone who's not killed a higher order animal. I do know the difference between a swift kill and one that isn't. I've had both and both bring a feeling of loss, and a hint of regret that I assuage with the belief I'm doing this for a reason which justifies the act. Maybe it doesn't justify it to all, but it does me.
Now there are ample reasons to reduce meat consumption; such graphic scare tactics, however, I find offensive.

[tailfins]

Eating meat is one thing, being inhumane to animals do to it wrong. killing and animals quickly is proper. This other is just wrong.

I know that kosher beef eats better. Some of it has to do with the way it's killed.

[jimnyc]

I love steaks and such just as much as others. But I'm more of an animal lover than most. I'm ignorant and admit it. It saddens me to see stuff like in the OP and I can only wish its false. If it's not, the slaughterhouses should invest a LOT of $$$ to make their "ways" better so it never happens to any of them.

[tailfins]

I love steaks and such just as much as others. But I'm more of an animal lover than most. I'm ignorant and admit it. It saddens me to see stuff like in the OP and I can only wish its false. If it's not, the slaughterhouses should invest a LOT of $$$ to make their "ways" better so it never happens to any of them.

What do you have to say about lobsters that are no good if not cooked alive? I'm against unnecessary cruelty, but some processes are a culinary necessity. What do you think of California's ban on Foie Gras?

[jimnyc]

What do you have to say about lobsters that are no good if not cooked alive?

I grew up going to Forked River, NJ where my grandparents lived and went crabbing right in their backyard. A crab would bite me in the bucket and I wanted to decapitate the little bastard. 20 mins later I would be upset when my Grandma put it in the boiling water.

Same thing, I'm ignorant. I love crabs and lobster but can no longer cook them. My brain somehow blocks out their impending doom.

[DragonStryk72]

What do you have to say about lobsters that are no good if not cooked alive? I'm against unnecessary cruelty, but some processes are a culinary necessity. What do you think of California's ban on Foie Gras?

I think dead is dead, and I don't hear them trying to stop tuna from getting sold, just make sure no dolphins are getting caught in the nets. I generally believe that you should get as much out of an animal as possible when you kill it, and the kill should be the quickest possible.