What a vile, scumbag organization!

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Bowl-a-Thon Group Touts Raising Funds for 14-Year-Old’s Abortion

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/bowl...old-s-abortion

The Tiller Fund raises money for abortions performed after 20 weeks in honor of the late-term abortionist, who was murdered in 2009.

[Noir]

...you would of forced a 14 year old to have a baby?

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...you would of forced a 14 year old to have a baby?

Especially after more than 20 weeks: Twenty weeks is just two weeks before established viability.

http://www.nysun.com/national/younge...miracle/49036/

[Noir]

Especially after more than 20 weeks: Twenty weeks is just two weeks before established viability.

http://www.nysun.com/national/younge...miracle/49036/

At no point does it say how many weeks pregnant the 14 year old girl was.

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At no point does it say how many weeks pregnant the 14 year old girl was.

It's implied by the targeted beneficiaries of the "George Tiller Fund".

[Noir]

It's implied by the targeted beneficiaries of the "George Tiller Fund".

That funds description is that it "helps women to pay for later abortion care and helps those who need to travel out of state for an abortion or those who live in a state that lacks an abortion fund."

Given her problem was a lack of funding (with no mention of travel costs) for the abortion, it is reasonable to assume it could either of been late term, or of been in lieu of a state provided abortion fund. But you can't (on the evidence i've seen) state is is definitely one or the other.

[darin]

...you would of forced a 14 year old to have a baby?

would of? Would 'have'

And yes, but it wouldn't HAVE been forced. The girl would be taught right from wrong; the young girl would HAVE been taught "killing this baby won't FIX anything - and it's murder".

[Wind Song]

Oklahoma: When a zygote-personhood bill came before the state Senate, Sen. Constance Johnson penned an amendment declaring that ejaculating anywhere outside a woman’s vagina constitutes “an action against an unborn child.”

Texas: Contesting a bill mandating sonograms before abortions, Rep. Harold Dutton unsuccessfully offered three amendments in a row. The first would have required the state to pay the college tuition of children born to women who decide against an abortion after seeing a required ultrasound image. The second would have subsidized the children’s health care costs until age 18. When that failed, he lowered the age to 6. That didn’t fly, either.

Those two bills really get at the heart of the issue, and address the oh-so inconvenient truth about why most women seek abortion in the first place: for economic reasons. Not, as the righties would have you believe, because we women are either murderous monsters or too stupid to know what’s up in there. We know the incredible burdens of pregnancy, childbirth and child-rearing. We know the lifelong emotional trauma of adoption.

The fetus-fetish cult are the worst hypocrites. They’re not pro-life, they’re not even pro-family or even pro-fetus. They’re anti-sex and not just any sex, they’re anti sex outside of a wholesome Christian marriage for the sole purpose of procreation. And not just that, they’re anti-women having sex outside of a wholesome Christian marriage for the sole purpose of procreation, because they are stubbornly attached to the traditional idea that men are horn-dogs who can’t control their urges (as God intended!) while women are delicate little flowers who graciously submit to the icky nasty but really don’t like it (also as God intended!). All straight out of the “Advice To Young Brides” manual.


http://southernbeale.wordpress.com/2...re-not-amused/

[darin]

Hi! I'm Wind Song. In usual form, because I cannot fully argue my point of view; because my ONLY ability is to SHOUT MY OPINION from the rooftops, I change the topic when I can't support my position using reason, data, or even proper polite disagreement

Fixed that for you.

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Oklahoma: When a zygote-personhood bill came before the state Senate, Sen. Constance Johnson penned an amendment declaring that ejaculating anywhere outside a woman’s vagina constitutes “an action against an unborn child.”

Texas: Contesting a bill mandating sonograms before abortions, Rep. Harold Dutton unsuccessfully offered three amendments in a row. The first would have required the state to pay the college tuition of children born to women who decide against an abortion after seeing a required ultrasound image. The second would have subsidized the children’s health care costs until age 18. When that failed, he lowered the age to 6. That didn’t fly, either.

Those two bills really get at the heart of the issue, and address the oh-so inconvenient truth about why most women seek abortion in the first place: for economic reasons. Not, as the righties would have you believe, because we women are either murderous monsters or too stupid to know what’s up in there. We know the incredible burdens of pregnancy, childbirth and child-rearing. We know the lifelong emotional trauma of adoption.

http://southernbeale.wordpress.com/2...re-not-amused/

OK, so we have established that state Senate, Sen. Constance Johnson might not be well-versed at writing legislative amendments. I propose we send her to a class on writing professional legislation.

It also appears that Rep. Harold Dutton is adept at sabotaging legislation. At least have the honesty to state the intent of his amendments.

[Wind Song]

OK, so we have established that state Senate, Sen. Constance Johnson might not be well-versed at writing legislative amendments. I propose we send her to a class on writing professional legislation.

I suggest you recognize that there is difference of opinion on the choice issue and that you don't own everyone else's minds.

[Wind Song]

Typical culture war news story by a Christian broadcasting station.

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Typical culture war news story by a Christian broadcasting station.

You see, that's how get the full story. Just like in a trial, no reasonable person would just look at exclusively the defense nor exclusively look at the prosecution. The same principal goes with agenda driven articles.

[Wind Song]

We won't have less abortions by recriminalizing abortion. We will have more dead 14 year olds.

[darin]

We won't have less abortions by recriminalizing abortion. We will have more dead 14 year olds.

'fewer' abortions...


We'll have fewer deaths by restricting whole-sale killing of infants/babies based SOLELY upon convenience. Yes, some may seek high-risk procedures for the sake of 'they aren't "ready" to be a momma' - but I'm not in a position to say their lives are worth MORE than that of their baby. I CARE too much about lives.

I'd support simply requiring the Father of the baby's consultation and agreement before a woman kills the baby. That'd be a SMALL step towards justice and true reproductive freedom.