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    Bowl-a-Thon Group Touts Raising Funds for 14-Year-Old’s Abortion
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/bowl...old-s-abortion

    The Tiller Fund raises money for abortions performed after 20 weeks in honor of the late-term abortionist, who was murdered in 2009.

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    ...you would of forced a 14 year old to have a baby?
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    ...you would of forced a 14 year old to have a baby?
    Especially after more than 20 weeks: Twenty weeks is just two weeks before established viability.

    http://www.nysun.com/national/younge...miracle/49036/

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    Typical culture war news story by a Christian broadcasting station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    Especially after more than 20 weeks: Twenty weeks is just two weeks before established viability.

    http://www.nysun.com/national/younge...miracle/49036/
    At no point does it say how many weeks pregnant the 14 year old girl was.
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    Typical culture war news story by a Christian broadcasting station.
    You see, that's how get the full story. Just like in a trial, no reasonable person would just look at exclusively the defense nor exclusively look at the prosecution. The same principal goes with agenda driven articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    At no point does it say how many weeks pregnant the 14 year old girl was.
    It's implied by the targeted beneficiaries of the "George Tiller Fund".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    ...you would of forced a 14 year old to have a baby?
    would of? Would 'have'

    And yes, but it wouldn't HAVE been forced. The girl would be taught right from wrong; the young girl would HAVE been taught "killing this baby won't FIX anything - and it's murder".
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    We won't have less abortions by recriminalizing abortion. We will have more dead 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    It's implied by the targeted beneficiaries of the "George Tiller Fund".
    That funds description is that it "helps women to pay for later abortion care and helps those who need to travel out of state for an abortion or those who live in a state that lacks an abortion fund."

    Given her problem was a lack of funding (with no mention of travel costs) for the abortion, it is reasonable to assume it could either of been late term, or of been in lieu of a state provided abortion fund. But you can't (on the evidence i've seen) state is is definitely one or the other.
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    We won't have less abortions by recriminalizing abortion. We will have more dead 14 year olds.
    'fewer' abortions...


    We'll have fewer deaths by restricting whole-sale killing of infants/babies based SOLELY upon convenience. Yes, some may seek high-risk procedures for the sake of 'they aren't "ready" to be a momma' - but I'm not in a position to say their lives are worth MORE than that of their baby. I CARE too much about lives.

    I'd support simply requiring the Father of the baby's consultation and agreement before a woman kills the baby. That'd be a SMALL step towards justice and true reproductive freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    'fewer' abortions...


    We'll have fewer deaths by restricting whole-sale killing of infants/babies based SOLELY upon convenience. Yes, some may seek high-risk procedures for the sake of 'they aren't "ready" to be a momma' - but I'm not in a position to say their lives are worth MORE than that of their baby. I CARE too much about lives.

    I'd support simply requiring the Father of the baby's consultation and agreement before a woman kills the baby. That'd be a SMALL step towards justice and true reproductive freedom.

    No, we'll just have more dead women. This post shows that you don't value the woman's life at all. It's only fetal life you care for. The practice of abortion is unrelated to the status of the fetus - it hinges totally on the aspirations and needs of women. Women have abortions regardless of the law, regardless of the risk to their lives or health, regardless of the morality of abortion, and regardless of what the fetus may or may not be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    No, we'll just have more dead women. This post shows that you don't value the woman's life at all. It's only fetal life you care for. The practice of abortion is unrelated to the status of the fetus - it hinges totally on the aspirations and needs of women. Women have abortions regardless of the law, regardless of the risk to their lives or health, regardless of the morality of abortion, and regardless of what the fetus may or may not be.
    Hyperbole baby; when it's all you have left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    No, we'll just have more dead women. This post shows that you don't value the woman's life at all. It's only fetal life you care for. The practice of abortion is unrelated to the status of the fetus - it hinges totally on the aspirations and needs of women. Women have abortions regardless of the law, regardless of the risk to their lives or health, regardless of the morality of abortion, and regardless of what the fetus may or may not be.
    Then why is there such opposition to at the very least educating the woman (or girl in this case) what an abortion actually is? I don't see much effort being made to have a bias toward carrying a pregnancy to term. Terminating a pregnancy is the "business" of the abortionist and is left unfettered to do a "sales job" on someone with a crisis pregnancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Hyperbole baby; when it's all you have left.

    It happens to be true that prior to Roe, many women died from unsafe, back alley abortion procedures. Others committed suicide. Do you care about the woman's life at all?

    In all these cases, the fetus AND the woman died.

    Do you want to punish any woman who terminates her pregnancy by imprisoning or killing her?

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