What a vile, scumbag organization!

[fj1200]

Why do you continually try and change the question after you ask it and I answer it?

Because you don't answer the question asked. You answer with something that really isn't in dispute.

You suggest that the fertilized egg should have the deciding vote. That's a clump of cells versus a living breathing thinking and feeling adult woman. The natural rights go the human being who can make the decisions.

So you fall on the fetus as property argument. Fine, logically unstable in my opinion, but fine.

[Wind Song]

Because you don't answer the question asked. You answer with something that really isn't in dispute.



So you fall on the fetus as property argument. Fine, logically unstable in my opinion, but fine.

The fetus is the "property" of the woman who is pregnant. Legally, that's the fetuses status. Logically unstable? What a bunch of crap. Who else does the fetus belong to?

YOU?

[fj1200]

The fetus is the "property" of the woman who is pregnant. Legally, that's the fetuses status. Logically unstable? What a bunch of crap. Who else does the fetus belong to?

YOU?

Themselves of course. Did you miss my post that discussed life versus property? I could find it if necessary.

[darin]

The fetus is the "property" of the woman who is pregnant. Legally, that's the fetuses status. Logically unstable? What a bunch of crap. Who else does the fetus belong to?

YOU?

So - you place a value judgment on the baby. That's fine. That's your hate - you own that evil, morally bankrupt point of view.
People do NOT belong to anyone anymore.


What I HATE - maybe the biggest part of the abortion-on-demand...the Father of the baby gets NO input. In fact, a woman can punch herself in the stomach to try and cause an abortion - however if she asks a MAN to do it; even the father of the human inside her, HE goes to Jail; she gets celebrated for exercising 'her choice'.

You poor broken person. Your mind is so f'ed up you love evil, and hate good.

[Wind Song]

I gave you a chance and all you're doing is personally attacking me. You're not debating the topic, dmp. We're done today.

[darin]

You are broken, honey. Seek emotional band aids or simply fix the disease. Your choice.

[Wind Song]

You are broken, honey. Seek emotional band aids or simply fix the disease. Your choice.

Your analysis is off topic, Mr "I'm such a great debater, you should take lessons from me".

You've done nothing but demonstrate personal attack/ ad hominem today. I already know how to do personal attack.

[Howard Roark]

Doesn't matter, you miss the point. It appears you prefer to be against coercion except when you're for it.

Back atcha.

Even though your point is misguided. Trust me...if insurance companies didn't want to cover contraception, they wouldn't.

[fj1200]

Back atcha.

Even though your point is misguided. Trust me...if insurance companies didn't want to cover contraception, they wouldn't.

I oppose all sorts of coercion. My point is not misguided as you clearly are not aware of it. I am unconcerned if an insurance company decides on its own to cover contraception or not.

[Wind Song]

I oppose all sorts of coercion. My point is not misguided as you clearly are not aware of it. I am unconcerned if an insurance company decides on its own to cover contraception or not.

Right. Why should YOU care about contraception being covered or not covered by insurance. YOU don't get pregnant.

[fj1200]

Right. Why should YOU care about contraception being covered or not covered by insurance. YOU don't get pregnant.

There are so many misconceptions present in two sentences. First, my wife does, and has, get pregnant so in fact WE do. Second, why should insurance, think risk management, cover a planned event? Third, government should not mandate private behavior.

[Wind Song]

There are so many misconceptions present in two sentences. First, my wife does, and has, get pregnant so in fact WE do. Second, why should insurance, think risk management, cover a planned event? Third, government should not mandate private behavior.

YOU don't get pregnant. Your wife gets pregnant. Insurance is private at this point, NOT a government program. Paying for contraception does not mandate that someone fucks or doesn't fuck.

[fj1200]

YOU don't get pregnant. Your wife gets pregnant. Insurance is private at this point, NOT a government program. Paying for contraception does not mandate that someone fucks or doesn't fuck.

WE have kids so???

Private insurance with massive government regulation??? Don't kid yourself, the government mandates what it doesn't have the guts to do. Hence Obamacare.

That last sentence doesn't even make sense but my point goes to the fundamental nature of insurance. What if people had to pay for the planned occurrence of a birth? Would they take a little more care on the front end?

[Wind Song]

WE have kids so???

Private insurance with massive government regulation??? Don't kid yourself, the government mandates what it doesn't have the guts to do. Hence Obamacare.

That last sentence doesn't even make sense but my point goes to the fundamental nature of insurance. What if people had to pay for the planned occurrence of a birth? Would they take a little more care on the front end?

You don't get pregnant. YOUR wife gets pregnant. Private insurance damn well needs some regulation, it's corrupt as hell.

[fj1200]

You don't get pregnant. YOUR wife gets pregnant. Private insurance damn well needs some regulation, it's corrupt as hell.

My wife called me and said, "guess what? We're pregnant," so???

"Private" insurance needs massive DEregulation.