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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    They wouldn't have to go overseas if it wasn't so difficult here. Why should they, of all people, mind their business?
    There aren't enough people willing to adopt for every abortion performed in this nation.

    I'm okay with abortions being legal. what I oppose is abortions being performed as routine birth control. Get on the pill you dumb bitches............ Use condoms you stupid assholes. That would get us down to having about 10% of the abortions we currently see going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    Then they should mind their own business re. abortions in this country.
    So... they should mind their own business except when you think they should be included in a database of willing adopters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    At the very least, they should start a database of people who are willing to adopt these babies.

    Oh, wait...those people don't exist.
    But you don't think they exist and if they do they should shut up?

    At least you don't want to have it both ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    Rather than using an article like this to raise 'tax deductible' donations, why doesn't CNS begin a fund that will help subscribers with the costs involved in order to adopt these unwanted babies?

    They could even have a bowl a thon for adoption.


    At the very least, they should start a database of people who are willing to adopt these babies.

    Oh, wait...those people don't exist.
    Really? SO there are NO adoptions of US Born babies? Odd, it seemed like there was a lineup of people willing to adopt them, and its our own system that's screwing us over, because if you're not the "perfect" family, they don't want to release a kid to you. My cousin Mikey was brought from overseas because of the bullcrap in the US adoption system. We HAVE people look for babies in the US. Ever watched the movie Juno? Yeah, that basic premise, of a women giving her baby up to a loving couple has now become a thing. Then there's the somewhat stupidly lucrative field of surrogacy.

    So, rejoice, because abortions are not actually needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    There aren't enough people willing to adopt for every abortion performed in this nation.

    I'm okay with abortions being legal. what I oppose is abortions being performed as routine birth control. Get on the pill you dumb bitches............ Use condoms you stupid assholes. That would get us down to having about 10% of the abortions we currently see going on.
    Yeah, but that requires personal accountability and responsibility, and come on, what would all that sort of crap lead to? Oh, right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    So... they should mind their own business except when you think they should be included in a database of willing adopters.



    But you don't think they exist and if they do they should shut up?

    At least you don't want to have it both ways.
    Clearly, you are confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    Really? SO there are NO adoptions of US Born babies? Odd, it seemed like there was a lineup of people willing to adopt them, and its our own system that's screwing us over, because if you're not the "perfect" family, they don't want to release a kid to you. My cousin Mikey was brought from overseas because of the bullcrap in the US adoption system. We HAVE people look for babies in the US. Ever watched the movie Juno? Yeah, that basic premise, of a women giving her baby up to a loving couple has now become a thing. Then there's the somewhat stupidly lucrative field of surrogacy.

    So, rejoice, because abortions are not actually needed.
    And your friends are confusing you. Read back through the thread.

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    What exactly is the debate here?

    Were it not for an organization like this, what would be the result?

    Are people rushing into the alleyways for illegal late-term abortions; is that what they're trying to avoid?

    A side point/ question; why do women get late-term abortions anyways? Did they not know they were pregnant; or is there some medical reason that develops later, necessitating the procedure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    Clearly, you are confused.
    Confused by your lack of a coherent position? Possibly, but that would be on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    A side point/ question; why do women get late-term abortions anyways? Did they not know they were pregnant; or is there some medical reason that develops later, necessitating the procedure?
    Most usually, it's women who do in fact have a life-threatening medical problem, to where they have to make the choice: You or the baby? I'll never fault a woman, or anyone, for choosing life.

    I'm, in general, against abortion, as it is the killing of life. Sorry, but that's the facts, if you simply continue to go about your daily routine, the kid would get born, but I do understand that exigent circumstances exist, such as rape and/or incest. As to the legality, I think the best we could possibly hope for is the 3 strikes approach. Third time you get pregnant, you're keeping it, cause clearly, you just don't get that birth control works if you use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonStryk72 View Post
    Most usually, it's women who do in fact have a life-threatening medical problem, to where they have to make the choice: You or the baby? I'll never fault a woman, or anyone, for choosing life.

    I'm, in general, against abortion, as it is the killing of life. Sorry, but that's the facts, if you simply continue to go about your daily routine, the kid would get born, but I do understand that exigent circumstances exist, such as rape and/or incest. As to the legality, I think the best we could possibly hope for is the 3 strikes approach. Third time you get pregnant, you're keeping it, cause clearly, you just don't get that birth control works if you use it.
    That's really weird you'd say that about three strikes. My sister has a friend who had two abortions, then kept the third. She told my sister, seriously, I don't think you can get into heaven if you have three abortions. WTF you say? Yea, she's not the sharpest spoon in the drawer; but apparently she finds guys who aren't too concerned with her intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    That's really weird you'd say that about three strikes. My sister has a friend who had two abortions, then kept the third. She told my sister, seriously, I don't think you can get into heaven if you have three abortions. WTF you say? Yea, she's not the sharpest spoon in the drawer; but apparently she finds guys who aren't too concerned with her intelligence.
    My friend Whitney got an abortion some years ago, and was telling me about how there were women there who'd been there 5+ times, and this is in Virginia, and Norfolk isn't that big a place. I can only what it would be like in say, NYC, where there are far more people
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    What exactly is the debate here?

    Were it not for an organization like this, what would be the result?

    Are people rushing into the alleyways for illegal late-term abortions; is that what they're trying to avoid?

    A side point/ question; why do women get late-term abortions anyways? Did they not know they were pregnant; or is there some medical reason that develops later, necessitating the procedure?

    I can offer a possible scenario: A teen hides her pregnancy until she can't hide it anymore. No longer able to hide it, she thinks about abortion.

    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    That's really weird you'd say that about three strikes. My sister has a friend who had two abortions, then kept the third. She told my sister, seriously, I don't think you can get into heaven if you have three abortions. WTF you say? Yea, she's not the sharpest spoon in the drawer; but apparently she finds guys who aren't too concerned with her intelligence.

    For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 .


    That being said, I would like to offer this advice to your sister: Spend too much time around a turd and you'll eventually stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    I can offer a possible scenario: A teen hides her pregnancy until she can't hide it anymore. No longer able to hide it, she thinks about abortion.




    For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23 .


    That being said, I would like to offer this advice to your sister: Spend too much time around a turd and you'll eventually stink.

    Oh, my sister's knows that; really its just childhood friend, ya know. Those bonds last, even if its just a b-day wish on FB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailfins View Post
    How is requiring a sonogram before an abortion different than requiring a building permit before building a shed on your own property?
    Building permits are required and sonograms are not. Sonograms are elective and they are invasive procedures.

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    ^no more invasive than what got one pregnant to begin with; and with few exceptions, that was elective. Not to mention, abortion is an elective invasive procedure.
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