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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    I don't think he really knows what he's saying MB. I'm really beginning to wonder what gives him the impression he thinks he's not a democrat, because that's more and more what he sounds like.
    Im far from being a Democrat. Prostitution on only legal in a couple counties here in Nevada. There is also a ton of people who are against it.

    Im not saying thats why men buy them things, but the way it works itself out is your practically paying for it as you spend money on the women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    I mean you take the woman to dinner or out for a night on the town, so your basically paying for her. When your married or in a relationship with them then you buy them gifts and other things so once again your paying for it. So either way your paying for it.
    I can't find anything written here that isn't completely insulting to women.

    Ya, know I don't think I've ever neg repped someone, but here ya go.

    Your compairing married women to prostitutes????

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Im far from being a Democrat. Prostitution on only legal in a couple counties here in Nevada. There is also a ton of people who are against it.

    Im not saying thats why men buy them things, but the way it works itself out is your practically paying for it as you spend money on the women.
    I think ya have that backwards nm. I believe prostitution is legal EVERYWHERE in Nevada, and is banned only inside city limits of a few cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    In a way your always paying for sex one way or another. I mean you take the woman to dinner or out for a night on the town, so your basically paying for her. When your married or in a relationship with them then you buy them gifts and other things so once again your paying for it. So either way your paying for it.
    You aren't married, are you? Hell..You're not even dating, are you?
    Last edited by shattered; 05-23-2007 at 06:38 PM.

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    prostitution is like most vices in many ways.

    It is one thing while it is illegal, and can be something entirely different if it is legalized, has some rules and some oversight.

    The 15 reasons seem pretty damned bogus today.

    But hey, make it legal in 50 states and I bet you gain a strong support group who can testify to all 15.

    The problem is it is a legal standard based on morality.

    Legal standards are supposed to be based on rights not morality.

    That is why church and state were never to engage in "congress".

    Why is it legal for Senators to sell their influence to campaign contributors but not to pay an ordinary human for an absolutely ordinary human activity?

    Why is it legal to do something for free but not legal to do it for a price?

    Can anybody name one other example that follows that same pattern?

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    Prostitution is unlike other “vices” because it is natural for a man to have sex with a woman. The only difference between prostitution and normal sexual relations is the monetary compensation exchanged for the woman’s time and service.

    I find that most of the arguments against prostitution in this thread are selfish. What is the big deal if a woman wants to willingly have safe sex with me for money? I am a single guy who has tried everything to find that “normal” relationship that everyone expects me to find. I’ve tried finding a girlfriend in every way possible. If your morality is based on the bible lets discus the following passage.

    “However, if you cannot control your desires, you should get married. It is better for you to marry than to burn with sexual desire” - 1 Corinthians 7:9.

    What if I cannot marry? Believe me I’ve tried to find a girl in real life for years, I’ve tried every online dating site you could imagine from Friend Finder to Match dot com, and tried some of the online Russian dating agencies like Elena’s Models and Kiev Connection. Do you know how many hours I’ve spent on Myspace trying to make a friend? I’m not a bad looking guy either, but I am severely emotionally and socially inept. I’ve had a lot of girls find me attractive, but then decided they do not like me because I appear to be emotionally bankrupt. You know I was so lonely I took in a homeless girl (she was 19 I was 23) I met at the bus stop for about four months until she moved back in with her mother. She was my very first time at the age of 23. I would have married that girl if she hadn’t went back with her looser boyfriend who didn’t even have a job! Yep. I lost out to a looser who didn’t even have a job. Don’t get me wrong I appear intelligent and sensible in real life enough to hold down a good job, but not enough to connect with any woman emotionally. I’ve even tried to compromise and simply find a companion to spend time with and make me feel like I’m loved such as an older lady, lonely woman with kids, and even fat and somewhat unattractive girls. I’ve been rejected by them all. I am socially inept. I think I may be a high functioning autistic. I’m not like the rain man, and most people think I’m normal, albeit nerdy. Woman are emotional beings and if you’re dysfunctional with emotions woman wont give you the time of day. The problem is I cannot display emotions like most people do. I feel the same emotions but I just can’t display them. I even forget to smile at people when they smile at me, and I have trouble with eye contact. I use to have severe depression and I still do to a certain extent, but I even got off my anti-depressants. I am doing better and part of that is because I have something to look forward to. When you think of a john you probably think of some sex obsessed sick perve, but I’m just a lonely guy who wants to feel normal. You don’t know what its like do you? I just want to feel normal. I just want to feel like everyone else. Do you think that God or anyone else would feel good inside if they totally denied me sex for the rest of my life? Forcing me to live celebrate the rest of my life on moral grounds is intellectual rape.

    I can only do so much. I don’t think I can over come my social problems. Trust me I’ve tried to great lengths. If I’m never going to have a girlfriend in my life why cant I have something? How would you feel if you couldn’t feel the touch of another person the rest of your life? Well that is how I feel. I'm not a rapist, a serial killer, or any other kind of social deviate. I'm trying to be normal. You know I've had a really hard life and over came a lot of problems. I got picked on in school, I was dirt poor growing up, my mother was an abusive alcoholic, and I struggled with my studies in elementary school. The teachers told my parents I was "a slow learner". They made me feel stupid, but it didn't break my spirit. I would never, ever give up. You know I believed that I could do anything I wanted. Even though I got a degree from a University and got a good job I am still incomplete. At least with an escort she can make me believe in a moment that I have someone there for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    Legal standards are supposed to be based on rights not morality.
    What are rights based on?
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    Who is to say that there won't still be pimps and brutalized women if prostitution is legalized? Legalized prostitution will accomplish exactly what I see from many men in this thread (although others of you, admirably, hold esteem for women). If we have come to the point that marriage can be compared to prostitution, then men no longer have any respect for the women they have sex with. Prostitution cheapens and degrades the very act of sex, whether a women is consenting to it or enslaved by it. Look at the comments in this thread, as if sex is just a meaningless act, with no emotional attachment involved. Legalizing prostitution would put society's stamp of approval on this view of sex, and make it harder for the women who save themselves to be regarded with respect by men. The very difference between marriage and prostitution is this: In prostitution, a man pays and leaves. In marriage, a man STAYS. His faithfulness and presence assure a woman of her value in his eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nienna View Post
    Who is to say that there won't still be pimps and brutalized women if prostitution is legalized? Legalized prostitution will accomplish exactly what I see from many men in this thread (although others of you, admirably, hold esteem for women). If we have come to the point that marriage can be compared to prostitution, then men no longer have any respect for the women they have sex with. Prostitution cheapens and degrades the very act of sex, whether a women is consenting to it or enslaved by it. Look at the comments in this thread, as if sex is just a meaningless act, with no emotional attachment involved. Legalizing prostitution would put society's stamp of approval on this view of sex, and make it harder for the women who save themselves to be regarded with respect by men. The very difference between marriage and prostitution is this: In prostitution, a man pays and leaves. In marriage, a man STAYS. His faithfulness and presence assure a woman of her value in his eyes.
    Maybe prostitutes aren't in need of a man's faithfulness or presence to feel "valued". What about single women ?--can they not feel "valued" ?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Maybe prostitutes aren't in need of a man's faithfulness or presence to feel "valued". What about single women ?--can they not feel "valued" ?
    Sure. If she doesn't sleep around. If a woman is sleeping around, she is selling herself short, no matter what she tells herself about "autonomy" and "choices." Just the way it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nienna View Post
    Sure. If she doesn't sleep around. If a woman is sleeping around, she is selling herself short, no matter what she tells herself about "autonomy" and "choices." Just the way it is.
    How about a single man who "sleeps around". Is he selling himself short too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    How about a single man who "sleeps around". Is he selling himself short too?
    Yeah, but not as much as he is selling the women short. Yep, I'm a sexist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nienna View Post
    Yeah, but not as much as he is selling the women short. Yep, I'm a sexist.
    Marriage or abstinance is the answer for everyone ?

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Marriage or abstinance is the answer for everyone ?
    Everyone makes his/her own choice, but the consequences are the same for everyone.
    Blessed be Your name, when the sun's shining down on me, when the world's "all as it should be," blessed be Your name!
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    Blessed be Your name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nienna View Post
    Everyone makes his/her own choice, but the consequences are the same for everyone.
    now quit dodging----you're really saying that one has to be married to experience fulfillment or abstinant to remain virtuous.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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