Learning How to Debate

[logroller]

anyone who doesn't like spinach and artichoke dip is a freak and an idiot

The Dude says: That's just like, uh, your opinion and stuff, man.

[Wind Song]

The Dude says: That's just like, uh, your opinion and stuff, man.

Oh no it isn't. Don't you know every utterance of opinion=fact! Besides, the only one ALLOWED to have an opinion is ME!

[logroller]

That was an attempt to find common ground, as anyone who knows that quote from the big lebowski probably liked it; and thus I have restored the pathos.

[Wind Song]

That was an attempt to find common ground, as anyone who knows that quote from the big lebowski probably liked it; and thus I have restored the pathos.

Common ground established by all who have seen the movie, The Big Lebowski.

[logroller]

Common ground established by all who have seen the movie, The Big Lebowski.

Indeed; but the quote itself was logical in its presentation.

(unlike your response, I might add)

[Wind Song]

As I've told you before. Accept that just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they hate you. If we're arguing gay marriage , for example, accept that someone can be anti gay marriage but not hate YOU personally.

I know the difference. I also know when I'm on the receiving end of a hateful post.

[Wind Song]

Indeed; but the quote itself was logical in its presentation.

OK

[logroller]

OK

Seriously though; read that quote. It was logically, ethical and, if you have seen the big lebowski, it engaged the pathos through shared experience. That's persuasion.

[Wind Song]

Seriously though; read that quote. It was logically, ethical and, if you have seen the big lebowski, it engaged the pathos through shared experience. That's persuasion.

I said that all of us who have seen the movie, the Big Lebowski share common ground. We share common experience. I don't know what you mean by "engaged the pathos".

[logroller]

I said that all of us who have seen the movie, the Big Lebowski share common ground. We share common experience.

But do you see how the other appeals work in unison; that even if one fails the others build strength in the argument regardless.

[Wind Song]

But do you see how the other appeals work in unison; that even if one fails the others build strength in the argument regardless.

No, I don't.

[logroller]

I said that all of us who have seen the movie, the Big Lebowski share common ground. We share common experience. I don't know what you mean by "engaged the pathos".

Pathos: a plea to emotion

[Wind Song]

I suspect I'm clueless again. Other than to understand that you are very proud of that one sentence you wrote because it's "logical". It didn't strike me as logical, per se.
I'm the first one to tell you that logic isn't my strong suit.
I hated classical Philosophy when I took it as an Intro class a million years ago.

Maybe on this forum, the big lebowski logic works. dmp calls everyone a dude, or at least he calls me a dude, regardless of gender.

[jimnyc]

The Big Lebowski, one of the best stoner movies ever, and most stoners never even saw it. It's too "deep" for most stoners! LOL I can't recommend this movie 'highly' enough, and I do recommend being stoned when watching!

[logroller]

No, I don't.

My response to ch wasnt threatening, it was accepting of his opinion (an ethical plea, that we can disagree and it's ok) and stated that he might be right for him, but that doesn't make it fact( a logical conclusion). All while playing off of what I'm guessing is a quote that he is familiar with, and probably found funny, thus I have appealed to his emotions; but even if he hadn't a clue who the Dude is-- the ethos and logos make my point.