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    What position do people take on nuisance animals: rats and mice, squirrels and gophers, rabbits and possums....things like that; is it ok to kill for quality of life? I mean, cattlemen don't like losing animals to squirrel holes. Farmers dont like rabbits eating their crops. And mice and rats, well, they're just disease transport. When is it ok to kill for our convenience; where do you draw the line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by logroller View Post
    What position do people take on nuisance animals: rats and mice, squirrels and gophers, rabbits and possums....things like that; is it ok to kill for quality of life? I mean, cattlemen don't like losing animals to squirrel holes. Farmers dont like rabbits eating their crops. And mice and rats, well, they're just disease transport. When is it ok to kill for our convenience; where do you draw the line?
    For the most part we try not to kill anything on our farm. Even snakes as much as I hate them, if they leave me alone, I leave them alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    "Fine". Does that mean it's enjoyable?
    Of course. Unfortunately there are parts of the world where if the hunter fails, his family starves. I bet coming home with nothing for ones family to eat isn't fun. Why did humans kill off the deers predators? I'll give you three guesses.

    A nutcase will do nutty things.

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    As an aside, I'd be a little confused why hunting would bother evolutionists, Darwinism-followers. I'd suspect the claimed natural order of things wouldn't be something upon which to place a value-judgment. </SPAN>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind Song View Post
    "Fine". Does that mean it's enjoyable?

    It's like any other job. Meat costs money. To me it's like finding a $100 bill on the ground.

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    I don't currently hunt, but I wouldn't have a problem if I needed to do it to survive. I grew up on a farm - we raised and butchered all our own meat. There are times when I would get attached to one of them and then discover it was on the table for dinner, but I am a survivor. I will do what it takes to survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyLady View Post
    I will do what it takes
    I should change my user name to "What it takes".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    I should change my user name to "What it takes".
    I've told you before I can take on your what ever any day and still now yard, kill the woodpeckers, and roast the pig. Come on down!
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    There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with preserving OUR heritage and providing quality food for the family that is practically FREE of chemicals and preservatives. If done properly and with responsibility, hunting can be a very spiritual practice and one that can bring families closer together. I don't take joy in the death of an animal but a successful hunt and a superb/clean shot is something to celebrate each and every time and one to thank Jesus Christ for the health, safety and privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red state View Post
    There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with preserving OUR heritage and providing quality food for the family that is practically FREE of chemicals and preservatives. If done properly and with responsibility, hunting can be a very spiritual practice and one that can bring families closer together. I don't take joy in the death of an animal but a successful hunt and a superb/clean shot is something to celebrate each and every time and one to thank Jesus Christ for the health, safety and privilege.

    Jesus has nothing to do with the struggles I'd face pulling the trigger on a non-predator like a deer. Walking over to the carcass, complete with the gaping hole of a 12 ga slug; seeing the last breath escape; wondering if the deer's mate is hovering just out of view...just not sure I can escape the human emotions I'm projecting onto the animal.

    Now...financially, would be good for us to save money on beef or other meat. So, in that case, I might do it. It'd be a difficult choice and brutally hard (thatswhatshesaid).
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    Hunt if you wish...don't if you prefer...just leaves more game for me and others.

    Thank God Almighty (Jesus Christ) if you wish...don't if you rather not. I don't care what the other guy does (so long as he/she doesn't bother MY God given, American right to keep and use the weapon of my choice and thank whomever I wish for all of our rights as AMERICANS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red state View Post
    Hunt if you wish...don't if you prefer...just leaves more game for me and others.

    Thank God Almighty (Jesus Christ) if you wish...don't if you rather not. I don't care what the other guy does (so long as he/she doesn't bother MY God given, American right to keep and use the weapon of my choice and thank whomever I wish for all of our rights as AMERICANS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red state View Post
    Hunt if you wish...don't if you prefer...just leaves more game for me and others.


    Not exactly...unless you plan on hunting in my back yard.

    Thank God Almighty (Jesus Christ) if you wish...don't if you rather not.
    Religion Forum.

    I don't care what the other guy does (so long as he/she doesn't bother MY God given, American right to keep and use the weapon of my choice and thank whomever I wish for all of our rights as AMERICANS.
    Maybe the Current Events forum? Lounge?

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    hunt, eat, enjoy!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    I see you're as umm , different, as ever.

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