
Originally Posted by
Gunny
Taibbi exercised his Rights in an appropriate forum. Politicized and weaponized government has nothing to do with freedom of anything except itself. So long as the government and the people allow it, it won't change.
John Kerry is a political opportunist without any substance otherwise. He is in fact a poster child for censorship. Not to mention likewise a poster child for people expressing themselves through the vote choosing more wisely. This charlatan jump started his career lying to Congress and hasn't stopped lying to the people since.
The problem I see in each scenario you mention is stupid people in power, or abusing a Constitutional Right by pushing it beyond the extreme. The guy that did it right got raked over the coals by a bunch of partisan hacks. Likewise, rabble was allowed to interfere with when not threatening the Rights of others and received tacit if not outright support from the aforementioned partisan hacks.
Those who cannot exercise their Rights responsibly are doomed to lose them, usually by their own hand.
Hard to tell by this where you land gunny.
But i'm thinking where generally close. sorta
Where we might differ is that, IMO If there's a choice between citizens freedoms/rights vs gov'ts responsibilities & "safety" i'm generally leaning hard towards individual freedoms/rights rather than any supposed govt/collective "necessity".
Generally i dont like setting the precedent of the govt taking rights. It's become a bad habit. and the rights lost have rarely come back. It's as if the people never had them.
Seems clear to me that where the constitution lands freedom wise IS FAR back from where we are now.
& It's a document more about freedoms and limiting govt powers rather than "safety" or supposed good order.
I think I understand your thoughts about "the people" behaving badly. But i don't assume that govt is daddy or momma who have the right or responsibility to take the car keys away because the people are acting too irresponsibly.
I'm more concerned about crazy -big sister- locking people in the closet because of a supposed dirty look from the others.
& Angry drunk -big brother- putting padlocks on the exits & burning the house down because the others "don't know how to act".
Last edited by revelarts; Yesterday at 08:30 AM.
It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16