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How does a bunch of citizens walking around packing heat constitute "a well regulated militia"? As far as I know, you don't need to join the state militia in order to get a gun in the US?Originally Posted by Little-Acorn
Doesn't the current interpretation that everyone can have a gun ignore this important part of the 2nd amendment?
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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jafar. Go find one, and taste the barrel. That's one freedom Our 2nd amendment would happily provide for you.
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The NRA's "Ten Reasons Why Obama is Bad News for the Second Amendment."
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18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
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No. How many times have I heard that the criminals are at fault?
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The second amendment does not say that militia membership is required to own a gun. It says militia membership is a reason why gun ownership shall not be infringed. If the shit hits the fan, militias will spring up formed of private gun owners. The 2nd protects the existence of future militias, not current.
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The most current "interpretation" was by the SCOTUS.
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fj. You can easily answer your own question above by placing yourself in a position, or place where you know. It has been frequented by criminal elements. Such as in Low-Income, Ghetto kinds of large city zones.
In fact. You could probably consult, or ask a local Police officer where the most dangerous places to go might be. Then go there, wave your identity around, hold cash in your hand, your cell-phone in hand, while walking blindly along.
Then. After your adventure there. If you survive.
Please come back to report that CRIMINALS are NOT AT FAULT.
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That makes no sense at all. Why would I say that the criminals are NOT AT FAULT? That doesn't mean you should jump into a tiger's den and poke the tiger with a stick.
The actions of a criminal are not the fault of the property owner.
Last edited by fj1200; 10-27-2012 at 01:25 PM.
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Well, how about explaining WHY you asked this question then?
Originally Posted by fj1200
No. How many times have I heard that the criminals are at fault?
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Is there something wrong with your eyesight? He answered NO, then asked "How many times have I heard that the criminals are at fault?" in response to someone asking if a property owner assumed liability for criminals if they banned legal carry on their premises.
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The art of the dialectic has fallen so far. :shrug: I asked the question because every time there is an example of gun violence and the inevitable cries of gun regulation rise from the left the right cries out that the problem isn't the guns rather the problem is the criminals. Do you not accept that?
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Exactly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_...s_Constitution
The bolded part is the subjunctive clause.As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8
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