No he's not...really.Originally Posted by Nell's Room
Transplanted Yankee
No he's not...really.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -- Susan B. Anthony
Steelers in '23
Like I tell everyone else, he's a scorpion. As soon as you reach your hand out and trust the fucker, he'll sting you in a NY minute and let you drown like the frog!
“You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock
Transplanted Yankee
Why? If some folks are attracted to the same gender and some(most) are attracted to the opposite, I see no reason why it's not logical that there are some who are attracted to both. It in no way establishes that those who are attracted to one or the other are choosing their attraction.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -- Susan B. Anthony
Your head exploded
See that's my issue though. It just seems like everyday another kind of weirdo is claiming they were born that way.
I admit I'm just giving my opinion on this topic.
Transplanted Yankee
You assign him way too much credit. A scorpion has game(stinger). OCA comes in blustering like he's some hurricane and then posts with all the force of a flea fart.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -- Susan B. Anthony
Transplanted Yankee
We have no problem believing that people are born more or less intelligent, creative, sane, athletic, coordinated, etc.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. -- Susan B. Anthony
Super Minion
From all I've read and observed, including the weird boys and girls as a kid, not too mention some observations as a teacher in ps-8 grades. Lots of observations that at least some seem way more than predisposed towards gay.
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill
Your head exploded
Well, as I've said I think the whole born that way/choice thing is a giant red herring anyway. Americans have the RIGHT to CHOOSE to be gay if they want even if it is a choice.
It is really no different than if someone said " show me the has to have a 500 HP sports car" gene. Oh you can't? Then you can't have one.
Ignored by the alt-right
I will admit to possible having stated an opinion strongly.At this point all we can do is argue about it because the Supremes have not weighed in but the case has been used in the debate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._VirginiaIn the August 4, 2010 federal district court decision in Perry v. Schwarzenegger, which overturned California's Proposition 8 (which restricted marriage to opposite-sex couples), Judge Vaughn Walker cited Loving v. Virginia to conclude that "the [constitutional] right to marry protects an individual's choice of marital partner regardless of gender".[14] On more narrow grounds, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed.[15][16]
Marriage, and the state "benefits," have zero to do with the First in this day and age.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Your head exploded
no, but the should. and that is the argument that gays should be making instead of getting embroiled in the "gay gene" debate.I will admit to possible having stated an opinion strongly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
Marriage, and the state "benefits," have zero to do with the First in this day and age.
Ignored by the alt-right
I'm not sure what argument you think they should be making. I haven't seen every point they've been using to argue but equal protection seems valid to me as it speaks to government preferencing one group over another. Now of course, I think they should remove all reference to marriage, especially at the Federal level, but that is not a Constitutional question IMO.
"when socialism fails, blame capitalism and demand more socialism." - A friend
"You know the difference between libs and right-wingers? Libs STFU when evidence refutes their false beliefs." - Another friend
“Don't waste your time with explanations: people only hear what they want to hear.” - Paulo Coelho
Your head exploded
If marriage is a religious institution and the government is picking and choosing with marriages they will recognize that is certainly a first amendment issue as that is PRECISELY what the first was written to prevent.
Liberal moonbat
If marriage is a "religious institution," then how does one account for marriages performed as civil ceremonies?
My sister and her husband were married by a JP in a banquet hall. The ceremony contained no references to God or religion.
If a legal marriage ceremony can be performed outside of religion, why should religious beliefs restrict who can be married?
Also, if you look online, you can find perfectly legal marriage ceremonies were men and women are "married" to trees, buildings and inflatable dolls. But yet consenting adults of the same sex can't marry each other?
As to the point of people "choosing" to be gay, why be so selective? Can a person also "choose" to have cancer?
"I'm sorry dear, but I have chosen to have lung cancer and I will die within a couple of years. I hope you understand my choice."
Last edited by gabosaurus; 06-05-2012 at 11:58 PM.
Livin' On A Prayer
Homosexuality is an orientation, not a lifestyle choice.
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Banned
I've handed you your ass so many times that your ass is gone and your colon is now tan from exposure to the sun.
You are and have always been a joke.
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