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[fj1200]

It isn't just like the equal rights clause doesn't apply, its left up to states and there is no basis for overturning bans based upon COTUS and the 14th.

You implied straight marriage was guaranteed by COTUS, it's not. If the Feds are going to pass laws that confer benefits based on marriage, they have no basis to do so.

[OCA]

They don't 'choose' any lifestyle. They just are.

Care to share with us and leading scientists and researchers the definitive genetic link you've discovered?

You could get a nobel for that!

[Nell's Room]

Its up to the states dumbass.

What right do the people in a State have to decide who can and cannot marry?

[OCA]

You would be correct. I have not heard one single argument against gay marriage that can't be shot down in flames. The anti gay rabble don't have any argument - and if they think their Bible can make the argument for them, they are kidding themselves.

OMG where to start...oh christ, you google the lifestyle and its detrimental effects.

[ConHog]

You don't have a fucking clue.......find where the 14th applies or shut the fuck up.

You are one illiterate sumbitch. I don't have to show where the 14th applies because my opinion is that the government doesn't have the authority to validate marriages PERIOD.

If some church wants to marry 20 guys into one big gay orgy, the government doesn't have the right to prevent it.

Now when it comes time to honor contracts, that is another matter entirely and THAT is where the 14th applies. A contract is a contract and EVERYONE has the right to have them enforced by law.

[OCA]

You implied straight marriage was guaranteed by COTUS, it's not. If the Feds are going to pass laws that confer benefits based on marriage, they have no basis to do so.

They also then have no basis then for overturning the will of the voting public based upon the 14th.

[Nell's Room]

Care to share with us and leading scientists and researchers the definitive genetic link you've discovered?

You could get a nobel for that!

Its logical. If someone is born straight, because heterosexuality is the 'default' gene, then why would someone choose to be attracted to someone they would never normally be attracted to?

If you think people choose to be gay, do this little experiment. Look up some gay porn, watch it, and try to will an erection. Or try to force yourself to become sexually attracted to one of the participants of the film. If you can, your argument that homosexuality is chosen would be partially correct. If you can't, I win the debate.

[Nell's Room]

They also then have no basis then for overturning the will of the voting public based upon the 14th.

If the public have voted based on their religious beliefs, or because they think gay people are 'icky' then damn right the SCOTUS can overturn their votes.

[OCA]

You are one illiterate sumbitch. I don't have to show where the 14th applies because my opinion is that the government doesn't have the authority to validate marriages PERIOD.

If some church wants to marry 20 guys into one big gay orgy, the government doesn't have the right to prevent it.

Now when it comes time to honor contracts, that is another matter entirely and THAT is where the 14th applies. A contract is a contract and EVERYONE has the right to have them enforced by law.

Not in states where it is banned by law, that contract is null and void. If two queers get hitched in Mass. and move to NC that shit is null and void, no benefits, no nothing.

The 14th doesn't apply to violations of law.

Fuck are you even coherent or what?

[fj1200]

They also then have no basis then for overturning the will of the voting public based upon the 14th.

Sure they do, Loving says so via incorporation.

[ConHog]

Its logical. If someone is born straight, because heterosexuality is the 'default' gene, then why would someone choose to be attracted to someone they would never normally be attracted to?

If you think people choose to be gay, do this little experiment. Look up some gay porn, watch it, and try to will an erection. Or try to force yourself to become sexually attracted to one of the participants of the film. If you can, your argument that homosexuality is chosen would be partially correct. If you can't, I win the debate.

You're new here. Let me clue you in.

OCA does watch gay porn, it DOES turn him on, and that scares him. Thus his over the top outrage about the gay.

It's actually an accepted fact around here

OCA

[OCA]

If the public have voted based on their religious beliefs, or because they think gay people are 'icky' then damn right the SCOTUS can overturn their votes.

So you are for tyrrany of the SCOTUS over the people?

Should the religious right have their presidential votes 86'd because they vote according to their religious beliefs?

Did you find that definitive genetic link to, how did you put it? "They just are" I think it was.

[ConHog]

Not in states where it is banned by law, that contract is null and void. If two queers get hitched in Mass. and move to NC that shit is null and void, no benefits, no nothing.

The 14th doesn't apply to violations of law.

Fuck are you even coherent or what?

I'm not talking about marriage you illiterate fuck.

FJ and I are straight, but if I went to my local courthouse and filed a contract saying "if I die all my worldly goods go to FJ" they would hyave to honor that contract upon my death, just as the same as they would have to honor said document if I left everything to my wife. Whether some church called FJ and I married or not is IRRELEVANT, as it SHOULD be.

[Nell's Room]

You're new here. Let me clue you in.

OCA does watch gay porn, it DOES turn him on, and that scares him. Thus his over the top outrage about the gay.

It's actually an accepted fact around here

OCA

Which is usually the case for some homosexual men. Their hatred of homosexuals is really self loathing.

[OCA]

I'm not talking about marriage you illiterate fuck.

FJ and I are straight, but if I went to my local courthouse and filed a contract saying "if I die all my worldly goods go to FJ" they would hyave to honor that contract upon my death, just as the same as they would have to honor said document if I left everything to my wife. Whether some church called FJ and I married or not is IRRELEVANT, as it SHOULD be.

Nope, not in states where that weird fucking shit is banned.......you get zilch, nada...you get a big "fuck off queer".

Your first of kin would get that shit..as it should be.