Logroller challenges RsR

[jimnyc]

Log, and I are discussing topics for a one on one. We'd prefer something where we could each debate the opposite of what we believe, but having a hard time choosing a topic.

Finding a topic should be fairly easy if you aren't concerned about being on the 'right' side, as all that would matter then is debating skills. Go down through the current events and politics sections for the past 90 days, there has got to be at least one topic you guys can agree to debate.

How about something with the TSA - where Log can argue that it's a necessity, and for the government side - and you can argue the unconstitutional side?

[ConHog]

Finding a topic should be fairly easy if you aren't concerned about being on the 'right' side, as all that would matter then is debating skills. Go down through the current events and politics sections for the past 90 days, there has got to be at least one topic you guys can agree to debate.

How about something with the TSA - where Log can argue that it's a necessity, and for the government side - and you can argue the unconstitutional side?

We aren't interested in right or wrong, and actually your TSA suggestion is a pretty good one. I guess neither oof us had thought about Log and I disagreeing on that subject.

[logroller]

Was wondering myself, not looking good. I know RSR said he was going to be working some crazy hours, but I haven't seen him online posting since this debate started. He usually would at least pop in, even if for a post or 2. Hopefully things are alright with him. But yeah, almost time to claim a W via forfeit for The Log.

Hey Log - isn't this the 2nd debate in a row where things stalled and the opposing member went AWOL?

don't stick a fork in it yet, I've got one more post.

[ConHog]

don't stick a fork in it yet, I've got one more post.

going to debate yourself? LOL

[logroller]

going to debate yourself? LOL

Gives some creedence to the title of master debater.

[red states rule]

So, is this one called for mercy?

Oh CH I do beg for your forgivness that I did ot post in amore timely fashion to suite you. Unlike you, your Assholiness, I have to work for a living - and I have been logging near 60 hour weeks - and I am as independently wealthy as you claim to be

[Gaffer]

If the money, in any way, goes to the govt it's a tax.

[aboutime]

If the money, in any way, goes to the govt it's a tax.

Any money. U.S. Currency, that does not remain in your paycheck, bank account, or business accounts that are counted as NET, and PROFITS...IS...a TAX.

April 15th of each Year for most. Is just a day when some think they are getting something back from the govt. But the reality is. The IRS, and CONGRESS decide when, and how much of YOUR MONEY to give back. So they can tax it again the following year.

[logroller]

If the money, in any way, goes to the govt it's a tax.

So if I buy a military surplus M1 Garand, that's a tax?

[ConHog]

If the money, in any way, goes to the govt it's a tax.

So a speeding ticket, or any other fine that is a result of criminal behavior, is a tax?

[jimnyc]

If the money, in any way, goes to the govt it's a tax.

So if I buy a military surplus M1 Garand, that's a tax?

I think he was referring to your debate, not that any monies in the world going to them!

[ConHog]

I think he was referring to your debate, not that any monies in the world going to them!

Certainly hope so.

[logroller]

I think he was referring to your debate, not that any monies in the world going to them!

He said 'in any way'; that's quite absolute. How else is that to be understood; other than, no matter the conditions. Just wanted a clarification because, obviously, there are times where the money goes to government but it's not a tax.

[jimnyc]

He said 'in any way'; that's quite absolute. How else is that to be understood; other than, no matter the conditions. Just wanted a clarification because, obviously, there are times where the money goes to government but it's not a tax.

I could certainly be wrong, but...

If the money, in any way, goes to the govt it's a tax.

I take that to mean, if THE money (the fee/tax being discussed in the debate), goes to the government in any way, that it's a tax. I don't think it meant money collected from military surplus or speeding citations. This is a thread about your debate, so I'm under the impression he's speaking of that money.

[Gaffer]

I could certainly be wrong, but...

If the money, in any way, goes to the govt it's a tax.

I take that to mean, if THE money (the fee/tax being discussed in the debate), goes to the government in any way, that it's a tax. I don't think it meant money collected from military surplus or speeding citations. This is a thread about your debate, so I'm under the impression he's speaking of that money.

Jim, you're the only one who seems to understand what I was talking about.

Log, buying and selling surplus is not a tax.

Con, a ticket or fine IS a tax. Whether it's paid to the city, state or fed govt. It's a demand for money using legal means to obtain it.