4th of July, but could americains do the boston tea party today?

[revelarts]

The Boston Tea party was just one of many protest the Americas did during the run up to the revolution.
Today we would have to apply for a permit to do the same and it would of course be denied OR there would be "free speech" zone 500 to 1000 yards away from the tea. and have to PAY for the permit and give a security depot for clean up. Or off to jail with the scoff laws.
and God forbid they stop traffic. they have a right to protest but not STOP TRAFFIC that's to much and illegal. And they shouldn't mouth off at the British soldiers they're just doing their jobs and you get what ask for when to do that. har har.


the Bonus marchers after WW1 didn't have any permits to camp out in D.C. to demand what the gov't promised them. The Army drove those law breaking veterans out the shanty town with bayonets and gas so decent folks could run their local businesses but Those pesky veterans came back and finally got some redress to their free speech and assembly protest.


the 4th of July, in the ideal, is the peoples revolution we the people celebrate freedom and self governance, not "general welfare" or "safety".


Happy 4th everyone

[ConHog]

The Boston Tea party was just one of many protest the Americas did during the run up to the revolution.
Today we would have to apply for a permit to do the same and it would of course be denied OR there would be "free speech" zone 500 to 1000 yards away from the tea. and have to PAY for the permit and give a security depot for clean up. Or off to jail with the scoff laws.
and God forbid they stop traffic. they have a right to protest but not STOP TRAFFIC that's to much and illegal. And they shouldn't mouth off at the British soldiers they're just doing their jobs and you get what ask for when to do that. har har.


the Bonus marchers after WW1 didn't have any permits to camp out in D.C. to demand what the gov't promised them. The Army drove those law breaking veterans out the shanty town with bayonets and gas so decent folks could run their local businesses but Those pesky veterans came back and finally got some redress to their free speech and assembly protest.


the 4th of July, in the ideal, is the peoples revolution we the people celebrate freedom and self governance, not "general welfare" or "safety".


Happy 4th everyone

Sometimes you crack me up Rev. Other times you make me sad.

Would you like to like in a community with no laws?

[Kathianne]

The Boston Tea party was just one of many protest the Americas did during the run up to the revolution.
Today we would have to apply for a permit to do the same and it would of course be denied OR there would be "free speech" zone 500 to 1000 yards away from the tea. and have to PAY for the permit and give a security depot for clean up. Or off to jail with the scoff laws.
and God forbid they stop traffic. they have a right to protest but not STOP TRAFFIC that's to much and illegal. And they shouldn't mouth off at the British soldiers they're just doing their jobs and you get what ask for when to do that. har har.


the Bonus marchers after WW1 didn't have any permits to camp out in D.C. to demand what the gov't promised them. The Army drove those law breaking veterans out the shanty town with bayonets and gas so decent folks could run their local businesses but Those pesky veterans came back and finally got some redress to their free speech and assembly protest.


the 4th of July, in the ideal, is the peoples revolution we the people celebrate freedom and self governance, not "general welfare" or "safety".


Happy 4th everyone

Ummm, it wasn't legal then either. In fact, when England heard of it, the Intolerable Acts were passed, along with the Quebec Act and Quartering Act. The reaction of Bostonians led to the closing of the port and city. That led to 1776.

[Thunderknuckles]

Sometimes you crack me up Rev. Other times you make me sad.

Would you like to like in a community with no laws?

Rev is an old school patriot born 200 years after his time

[Nukeman]

Sometimes you crack me up Rev. Other times you make me sad.

Would you like to like in a community with no laws?

I beleive the point he is making is that "we" as in Americans have been regulated to the point that hardley anyone would take the time to do what needs to be done for fear of "crossing" the line or incurring the wrath of the authorities!!

We have become what our forefathers would hate. Sheep blindly following the govt with no will to fight back!! Personally its pathetic, and you are one who ignors this!!!!

[Kathianne]

I beleive the point he is making is that "we" as in Americans have been regulated to the point that hardley anyone would take the time to do what needs to be done for fear of "crossing" the line or incurring the wrath of the authorities!!

We have become what our forefathers would hate. Sheep blindly following the govt with no will to fight back!! Personally its pathetic, and you are one who ignors this!!!!

Most of the colonists would have agreed with us sheeple, at least until the closing of Boston, that was the final act that triggered the unity of the colonies that led to the moment of the 'Shot heard around the World.'

[ConHog]

I beleive the point he is making is that "we" as in Americans have been regulated to the point that hardley anyone would take the time to do what needs to be done for fear of "crossing" the line or incurring the wrath of the authorities!!

We have become what our forefathers would hate. Sheep blindly following the govt with no will to fight back!! Personally its pathetic, and you are one who ignors this!!!!

I don't believe that is true. Our forefathers understood the need for government and the need for law. What they disagreed with was being governed by a government that didn't include representation from them and or a government that persecuted people, especially for religious reasons.

[Kathianne]

I don't believe that is true. Our forefathers understood the need for government and the need for law. What they disagreed with was being governed by a government that didn't include representation from them and or a government that persecuted people, especially for religious reasons.

People left England over religious persecution. In the colonies, discrimination certainly occurred regarding religion, no argument. However here, very little had to do with England, with the exception of handing out land grants among the gentry.

It was the colonies themselves that were persecuting on religious grounds, though by 1770 most of that had lessened to near tolerable levels. Of course discrimination along racial and religious lines would continue throughout our history, but certainly not to the level of rebellion.

Nope, the primary argument was 'representation' though a very decent argument can be made that it really had to do with people 2 or more generations removed from the motherland, that had become at least middle class, if not wealthy. Many were landowners, among the founders they were primarily "Large" landholders. Less taxes seemed very much in their interests.

[Dilloduck]

I beleive the point he is making is that "we" as in Americans have been regulated to the point that hardley anyone would take the time to do what needs to be done for fear of "crossing" the line or incurring the wrath of the authorities!!

We have become what our forefathers would hate. Sheep blindly following the govt with no will to fight back!! Personally its pathetic, and you are one who ignors this!!!!

Sheep or plain old chicken shits. Or so hopelessly cycnical that no one thinks it is a viable way to get anything changed.

[Nukeman]

I don't believe that is true. Our forefathers understood the need for government and the need for law. What they disagreed with was being governed by a government that didn't include representation from them and or a government that persecuted people, especially for religious reasons.

WE have that now or are you blind!! We have persecution of Christians here in the US We have almost NO representation in govt unless you are a union or lobbiest!! The average American citizen really has NO representation at the national level and if you think otherwise you are kidding yourself!!!!

[ConHog]

WE have that now or are you blind!! We have persecution of Christians here in the US We have almost NO representation in govt unless you are a union or lobbiest!! The average American citizen really has NO representation at the national level and if you think otherwise you are kidding yourself!!!!

Let's start with the easiest. Please link to a SINGLE example of the USG persecuting Christians.

[logroller]

Let's be honest here, if the Boston tea party happened today it'd more likely be considered an act of terrorism than patriotism.

[Kathianne]

Let's be honest here, if the Boston tea party happened today it'd more likely be considered an act of terrorism than patriotism.

No explosions, heck no firing of weapons. I don't think so.

Without some justification it would only be seen as destruction of property at the level of major felony. That was a lot of tea.

[ConHog]

Let's be honest here, if the Boston tea party happened today it'd more likely be considered an act of terrorism than patriotism.

In many ways our forefathers were the terrorists of their day. I mean they didn't wear standard uniforms (especially in the beginning) , they didn't stand and fight "fair" , they stole supplies, they terrorized crown sympathizers, they destroyed strategic locations.

But hey, we won so all good.

[logroller]

No explosions, heck no firing of weapons. I don't think so.

Without some justification it would only be seen as destruction of property at the level of major felony. That was a lot of tea.

Wasn't someone hurt? Just needs a few passes through the govt propaganda machine...bam!