Sex workers

[revelarts]

apples and oranges

"prostitution is the old profession..." "...it will always be around"

the only Point in your comment is the AGE of and continuance the activity.

Murder is older and "will always be around"


Apples and apples

[Trigg]

"prostitution is the old profession..." "...it will always be around"

the only Point in your comment is the AGE of and continuance the activity.

Murder is older and "will always be around"


Apples and apples

compairing prostitution and murder? Give me a break

[Gaffer]

"prostitution is the old profession..." "...it will always be around"

the only Point in your comment is the AGE of and continuance the activity.

Murder is older and "will always be around"


Apples and apples

How do you know prostitution wasn't around before murder?

[revelarts]

compairing prostitution and murder? Give me a break

As crimes go they are on a different scale but you made your point turn on AGE and continuance not the activity itself.
I guess i could say Lying has been around longer if murder is to harsh for you to take seriously.

How do you know prostitution wasn't around before murder?

Well If your of the belief that we came from monkeys then it's safe to assume that our earliest ancestors were killing each other ....survival of the fittist and all... long before the use of money came into play.

If you believe that God made us then the Bible says the 1st sins of man where disobedience to God's 1 Command, then a few years later murder. After that all the other stuff falls in there.

[aboutime]

Kind of ironic, and strange how THIS THREAD'S TOPIC...just popped up the day after BARNEY FRANK announced his marriage to either his Husband, or Wife over the weekend.

And Barney's past, having been accused of a Brothel under his own roof just seems so TIMELY and connected to this thread too!

[revelarts]

Exploitive - Only if you consider it so, if a woman feels empowered by it, then who are you to say she is exploited.

her pimp told me.

Also interesting that you didn't include men in this statement.

more women than men in the game on that side but yes they should be included.

Feeding Crimes - Is a logic loop, it feeds crimes if its illegal, and its illegal because it feeds crimes...

just one point of those i mentioned. But laundering money from stolen goods feeds crime as well. but selling guns to known murderers can make you an accessory to the crime. Its not a logic loop.

Unfaithfulness - There is no strength in not committing an act you have no ability to do, the strength is in not doing what you can. Also using that logic you would also want alcohol made illegal (drunks are more likey to be unfaithful etc)

there a direct action in prostitution that makes party an adulterer. and Adulter is is a legal grounds for divorce. Alchol may be an aid but it's several steps back and can't be held legally libel but can, as YOU point out, be part of the cause.

STDs/STIs using proper protection you're no more as likey to get an illness than you would from someone you had not paid for sex for.

If you and your partner are faithful you have ZERO chance.

They may be unfulfilling to you, but then so may be playing golf. And the 'false advertising' in porn is no more false advertising than the last Hollywood war movie you saw.

i said ultimately.
as for false advertising, well the general Hollywood flick doesn't promise quite as much as porn movie.

Finally this is the same God (if he does indeed exist) that told you not to pass judgement?

for a better understanding of those verse Abby has done a good job here.
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthre...705#post157705

And the same Jesus who you quote told a woman caught in the act of adultery to "go, and sin no more."

[Gaffer]

As crimes go they are on a different scale but you made your point turn on AGE and continuance not the activity itself.
I guess i could say Lying has been around longer if murder is to harsh for you to take seriously.






Well If your of the belief that we came from monkeys then it's safe to assume that our earliest ancestors were killing each other ....survival of the fittist and all... long before the use of money came into play.

If you believe that God made us then the Bible says the 1st sins of man where disobedience to God's 1 Command, then a few years later murder. After that all the other stuff falls in there.

Prostitution, while looked down on, was not a sin. And before money trade was the currency. In some places it has been the women's only means of survival. Up until recent history it was as acceptable as any trade.

I'm of the man evolved from apes belief.

[fj1200]

Kind of ironic, and strange how THIS THREAD'S TOPIC...just popped up the day after BARNEY FRANK announced his marriage to either his Husband, or Wife over the weekend.

And Barney's past, having been accused of a Brothel under his own roof just seems so TIMELY and connected to this thread too!

[fj1200]

"prostitution is the old profession..." "...it will always be around"

the only Point in your comment is the AGE of and continuance the activity.

Murder is older and "will always be around"


Apples and apples

Prostitution doesn't deny anyone their natural rights. Apples and bowling balls.

[fj1200]

Everything i've quoted from the source says the same thing, the judges rules that the 'illegal act' was payment for gratification. Payment without gratification, and gratification without payment are not illegal.

Everything you've cherry picked.

That case has a loophole as wide as any i've seen -

The Court noted that for an act to constitute prostitution, “the genitals, buttocks, or female breast, of either the prostitute or the customer must come in contact with some part of the body of the other for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification of the customer or of the prostitute.” Id (citing People v. Hill (1980) 103 Cal.App.3d 525, at 534-535). Since the payment of the acting fees was the only payment, there was no evidence that any payment was made for the purpose of sexual gratification."

So if i bought my friend a prostitute who did nothing to me, i am the consumer, but i am not being sexually gratified, its legal for them to have sex by my coin?

The salient part of your quote above:

...

Since the payment of the acting fees was the only payment, there was no evidence that any payment was made for the purpose of sexual gratification.

[ConHog]

Everything you've cherry picked.



The salient part of your quote above:

Irrelevant anyway since the crime most are charged with is solicitation of a prostitute (trying to hire a hooker) no sex need take place. And yes noir hiring a whore for your mate is still illegal.